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In Affinity Publisher I am editing pages 6 and 7 and the layers panel is displaying pages 5 and 6 when I correct it, Affinity reverts the layers panel back to pages five and six and is pretty persistent with this behavior. The same sort of thing happens when I am changing my stroke size in Designer. I keep running into situations like this with this suite of programs literally derailing my workflow.

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We'll probably need to see some screenshots, including the complete application window, with both the Pages panel and the Layers panel and the Status Bar included.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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Thanks. According to the Pages panel and Status Bar you are currently on spread 90,91. Is that what the Lawyers panel says, too?

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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The displayed spread is pages 92-93. The layers panel is displayed for 90-91. That happened as soon as I drew a box with the move tool around all of the elements I needed to select. When I went to clip them inside a rectangle the layers panel was displaying for preceding pages(90-91).

I think I was drawing around my selection from too far outside the perimeter of the spread and the program must have thought I wanted the preceding spread even though it highlighted elements from my desired spread. That is the best answer I can come up with because this behavior is consistent whenever I do this within Publisher.

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9 hours ago, dehskins said:

The displayed spread is pages 92-93. The layers panel is displayed for 90-91.

90-91 is your current page. How did you get to page 92-93 to begin your selection work?

I wonder if you have something on page 90-91 that is extending off the page and onto the top edge of 92-93, such that when you try to select on 92-93 you're also getting that item from 90-91 selected when the selection marquee intersects it? We could help check that if you could give us a sample document containing 90-93, or maybe you can see if that's happening by selecting items on 90-91 and seeing where the bounding boxes are. (Though I'm not seeing that in the screenshot you provided, so that might be totally wrong.)

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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Thanks for your help, Walt. I was on pages 92-93 when I made my selection. The layers panel changed to reflect 90-91. I checked this throughout the document and the same thing happens whenever I select pages this way. There is nothing extending off the bottom of these pages. It happens if I make my selection too big and it comes close to the preceding spread. If I keep the selection closer to the intended spread this doesn't happen. This is one of many strange occurrences within the program. I will work around this. I am not comfortable sharing my work on public pages. My projects are not meant to be displayed in forums. I will be deleting the file I uploaded.

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2 minutes ago, dehskins said:

It happens if I make my selection too big and it comes close to the preceding spread. If I keep the selection closer to the intended spread this doesn't happen.

Thanks. You're in essence "clicking" on that prior page, as you have clicked in its part of the pasteboard, and that switches you to that page. There is very little room vertically between the pages, and the upper-half of that space "belongs" to the upper page. 

You will need t be more careful where you click, I think. I don't think this is a bug, but Serif will probably comment about that.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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Agreed. The funny thing about the selection tool is that it is set to select elements only if you completely surround it with a drawn selection. That is why I think this is a bug because without selecting anything from the preceding spread it changes to that page. This doesn't seem to be consistent with the way this tool generally works. If I had the tool set to select anything the bounding box touches then I might expect this behavior. Typically I would select elements from the layers panel so I hadn't run into this before.

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Unfortunately I was unable to see the file provided above before it was removed, however from the description provided I believe that Walt is correct in the behaviour you're seeing and that this is currently expected - ie 'By Design'.

If you'd like to see this behaviour change and have any suggestions for our team, I'd recommend creating a post in the Feedback section of the forums for our team to see and consider :)

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41 minutes ago, dehskins said:

I see now if it didn't work this way we wouldn't be able to line up the guides with the preceding spread if necessary which I have done and found beneficial.

In case you didn't know, you can have multiple Master Pages, and you can put Guides on a Master Page which will show up on any page/spread you apply that Master Page to. That may be an easier way of getting consistent or aligned Guides across spreads.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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