Severi Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I don't know how to adjust the paragraph hyphenation settings so that the second to last line wouldn't be like in the picture with huge white spaces. It happens in many paragraphs, and it's painful to use soft hyphenation very often to solve the problem. How should I adjust the settings in the picture to avoid this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmrecs01 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 @Severi I may be completely wrong about this (very likely) but isn't what you are seeing a result of your Justification settings, nothing to do with Hyphenation? Quote Win 10 Pro, i7 6700K, 32Gb RAM, NVidia GTX1660 Ti and Intel HD530 Graphics Long-time user of Serif products, chiefly PagePlus and PhotoPlus, but also WebPlus, CraftArtistProfessional and DrawPlus. Delighted to be using Affinity Designer, Photo, and now Publisher, version 1 and now version 2. iPad Pro (11") running Affinity Photo and Designer (iOS 16.4.1) version 1 and all three version 2 apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, emmrecs01 said: nothing to do with Hyphenation? Well, if hyphenation were working (or working better), justification might not need to produce that. I'm not sure what language that is, but if it's Finnish I think hyphenation is somewhat problematic (perhaps non-existent), and what may really be needed is the manual addition of soft (discretionary) hyphens via Text > Insert. Quote -- Walt Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 22H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 22H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Affinity Photo 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0. beta/ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta / Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0betaiPad Pro M1, 12.9", iPadOS 16.4.1 (a), Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Affinity Photo 1.10.7 and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta/ Affinity Designer 1.10.7 and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta/ Affinity Publisher 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyanepsion Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Hello, @Severi, cesure.mp4 The purpose of hyphenation is to get text aligned on the left and right of the column by cutting the words according to the rules of typography (which vary by language). The purpose of justification is to adjust the spacing between words and between letters to achieve the same effect of alignment on the left and right. When the column is narrow and the words are long, justification is not very suitable. It is better to centre the text, or to align it with an iron left, or to align it with an iron right, or to set the hyphenation rules either according to the usual rules of the language, or by inserting a manual soft hyphenation. Old Bruce 1 Quote 6 cœurs, 12 processus - Windows 11 pro - 4K - DirectX 12 - Suite universelle Affinity (Affinity Publisher, Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo). ███ Mais je vous le demande, peut-on imaginer une police sans sérifs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Pyanepsion said: to align it with an iron left, or to align it with an iron right, I have always used the terms Ragged Right and Ragged Left. But yes, long words and narrow columns create difficulties. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 11.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.1.0 | Affinity Photo 2.1.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.1.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severi Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 @walt.farrell Yes, the language is Finnish. I found excellent working hyphenation files via Affinity people. The funny thing is that the hyphenation works otherwise really well, but I have problems with the second to last line. That's what makes it funny. I thought that there might be something wrong with my settings. But in the end, soft hyphens work; it's just that when I have over 60 pages there are many paragraphs to check and do "manual" work. @Pyanepsion I do layouts for magazines and in columns it's a bit weird to use center alignment but I get your point. I often use justification in text and have 3 columns on one page (A4) and it usually works fine for me. I have been doing creative design now for about 35 years, so I think I have some kind of idea about design and typography. 😀In many cases, left adjustment is also OK, but in newspapers we usually use 'justify left' setting like The Times and New York Time etc. And as said, the hyphenation in general is working really well, just the second to last line is the problem. Pyanepsion and walt.farrell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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