AngryKiwee Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Hey Guys, AVIF support would be greatly appreciated. I know this has been a long requested feature since version 1 but still no word on when this will be implemented from Serif? Thank you for JPEG XL but due to Google being just downright awkward and deprecating the XL codec in version M110 AVIF is really the only choice to use with current gen technology for higher quality smaller file sizes. Can we please get an update on where things are with this? Great job on the software. The future for these apps is very bright. Kind regards Mike Graymatter, Affinity Rat, MacHeritage and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezign Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 AVIF NEEDED ! Max Rockbin and Affinity Rat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Th Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Now that Unsplash and others are using the AVIF format, it certainly would be helpful to be able to open/edit these files. Max Rockbin and Graymatter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacb0y Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Agreed! We need more websites like this! Create and edit true HDR (High Dynamic Range) images - Greg Benz Photography Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayman Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 AGREE! I'm glad WEB P was added in version 2 but the web industry has changed and is moving fast to AVIF. As a web developer, this will help my workflow so much. Graymatter, fdelaneau and bures 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATP Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Apple has added support for JPEG XL in Safari and MacOS, so I don't doubt we will get to see support in Chrome sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacb0y Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, ATP said: Apple has added support for JPEG XL in Safari and MacOS, so I don't doubt we will get to see support in Chrome sooner than later. AVIF is much smaller than JpegXL though, especially for HDR images. Graymatter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATP Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, sacb0y said: AVIF is much smaller than JpegXL though, especially for HDR images. This is not true. This is a benchmark chart made by Jon Sneyers in May of this year, it clearly shows JPEG XL to be superior in all scenarios, in both quality and encode speed, with well considered encode settings chosen for all formats. All credit for the chart goes to Jon Sneyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacb0y Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I'm just saying from personal experience, saving the same HDR file from photoshop as an AVIF and a JPEGXL, the AVIF is a fraction of the size of the JPEGXL. Graymatter and seabirdr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATP Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 That is a bad implementation by Adobe, not the codecs fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezign Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 WE NEED AVIF !!! Graymatter and Max Rockbin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kayser Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 6/21/2023 at 9:22 PM, ATP said: Apple has added support for JPEG XL in Safari and MacOS, so I don't doubt we will get to see support in Chrome sooner than later. Actually chromium has scrapped all development on JPEG XL.https://www.reddit.com/r/jpegxl/comments/zhbiy1/jpegxl_removed_from_chromium_source/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATP Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Everything can be re-evaluated. Microsoft and Apple will back JPEG XL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Rockbin Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Yes, please add AVIF to Affinity. https://caniuse.com/?search=avif 85% global support https://caniuse.com/jpegxl .03% global support JPEG XL sounds wonderful. Wish it was happening, but not now. Not yet. And with Chrome dropping out and WebKit updates happening only on leap years, I wouldn't hold my breath. Graymatter, fdelaneau and bures 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kayser Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 23 hours ago, ATP said: Everything can be re-evaluated. Microsoft and Apple will back JPEG XL. Edge uses Chromium. Chromium scrapped jpeg xl for now, they removed the code written entirely as mentioned above. Graymatter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATP Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1. Web distribution isn't everything. 2. With MacOS/iOS/iPadOS (Safari), and in the future, Edge, adding JPEG XL, we'll see if the Chromium team won't get their head out of their behind. 3. Edge actively removes AVIF support. Microsoft implements a lot of stuff outside of Chromium, and there's whispers about Microsoft adding JPEG XL support in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Rockbin Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 ? I'm just curious, but I can't think of anything I'd use a format like AVIF, JPEG XL or any highly compressed format for except the web. If it's just for personal storage? You can buy a terabyte drive for $30, so why not save the original? I suppose you could use them in a phone app, but most phone apps are just websites (progressive web apps) underneath the hood. Maybe I should watch Silicon Valley again. They talked about it a lot. Hmmm. I do think JPEG XL sounds like the best format, but even Google dropped it and they were the main advocate initially. Now they just tell you to use AVIF or WEBP if you don't want your SEO ding'd for inefficient images (and webp is a sorry excuse for a new-ish image format). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATP Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 There's a ton of reasons, the most important change with AVIF and JPEG XL being Wide Gaumut/HDR. Normal JPEG we all currently know and use can't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kayser Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Max Rockbin said: ? I'm just curious, but I can't think of anything I'd use a format like AVIF, JPEG XL or any highly compressed format for except the web. If it's just for personal storage? You can buy a terabyte drive for $30, so why not save the original? I suppose you could use them in a phone app, but most phone apps are just websites (progressive web apps) underneath the hood. Maybe I should watch Silicon Valley again. They talked about it a lot. Hmmm. I do think JPEG XL sounds like the best format, but even Google dropped it and they were the main advocate initially. Now they just tell you to use AVIF or WEBP if you don't want your SEO ding'd for inefficient images (and webp is a sorry excuse for a new-ish image format). AVIF natively stores 10bit data, webp in this iteration is still just a 8bit file format. With screen brightness finally rising thanks to miniLed, oled screens and/or local dimming LCDs HDR becomes a reasonable thing for the web. both are much more efficient codecs and they can store animation. if you have used a iphone, you might have noticed the live photo option that is created when you hold the trigger for a second or two. instead of a single photo you'll see playback of that moment. I don't know how important HDR images for the web might become, but lots of things that i would have considered a pointless gimmick turned out to be a thing that tens of millions of people enjoy 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacb0y Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Now microsoft has added support for HDR wallpapers through JXR, is there a way to make this format outside of a game screenshot? NO! Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 25921 | Windows Insider Blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATP Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 JXR is developed by Microsoft, it will never become widely used. JXR support for the wallpaper probably comes from internal changes to allow more formats in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacb0y Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 It's used more widely than AVIF or JPEGXL just cause xbox and nvidia use it for screenshots, and the native windows photo viewer supports it in full HDR. It is currently the only consumer level viewer for HDR images. There's likely more JXR images out there than AVIF and JPEGXL combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATP Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Makes sense when it's 14 years old, doesn't make it widely used though. There's a ton of JPEG 2000 pictures too, but mostly used in very specific circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezign Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Service like short pixel usés by millions wordpress site now convert convert to. AVIF. AVIF is better than. WebP and it make sense. but would be much better if we could export to AVIF from affinity ! AVIF is substituting jpeg, png and GIF ! We definitely need AVIF instead of having to use heavy load service like short pixel to make out websites lighter. https://shortpixel.com Next-gen WebP and AVIF formats While JPEG is still the most popular format, new formats like WebP and AVIF offer better image quality at smaller file sizes. And that means faster websites and therefore better SEO rankings. Who does not want that?! ShortPixel takes all the complexity away from you and makes everything simple: with just a few clicks you can convert all your JPG/PNG images to WebP/AVIF and make them available to the right browsers. bures and Graymatter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus_S Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Even Microsoft Paint supports AVIF and HEIC (same container format, different embedded image codecs) these days. Many websites use AVIF these days but the files carry the .jpg file extension, so it's often not obvious. Please add support for AVIF/HEIC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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