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Hello,

I have a fairly simple use-case that I thought I've done before, but I guess I haven't. I have this alien head outline. Inside are the rounded rectangles. I would simply like to click the rounded rectangles and move them around, but I cannot. I tried double-clicking and variations of holding CTRL/ALT/SHIFT, but nothing seems to work. The only workaround is to select the rounded rectangles from the Layers menu, but this is very time consuming. I have attached the file.

 

Any tips?

Thanks.

 

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EDIT: Outline View mode actually does something like what I want:
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Selection_Example.afdesign

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Messing about with your file I find that the problem is the Curves layer, the mask and eyeholes. I made a new one with the pen tool and the boolean operations with the result being that I can then select the "Pills" inside it with ease. How was the mask layer made? Copy and paste from some other application?

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Posted

Thanks, Old Bruce! Your suggestion lead me to the right solution. I created this originally about a year ago and probably did it in Adobe Illustrator, so I'm not sure what baggage that carried over. I didn't really need any of the masking, so I deleted that.

To solve my problem, I made a few copies of my design. For one, I deleted everything except the outline and then selected Join Curves. I did the same thing for an eye, duplicated it, and nested it in the head outline. Then I copied and nested the pills. And it seems like now I can easily move the eyes and the pills within the shape. Thanks again!

 

Here is the structure now:

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Posted
4 minutes ago, TrentL said:

Here is the structure now:

I would choose the eyes and do a boolean Add then use that Curves layer and subtract it from the Outline to get one Curves layer.

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Posted

Interesting. It's because the outside of the head isn't closed. (re-creatable with a couple simple shapes)

So, in the future if you run into this again check that first. Could save you a lot of recreation time.
To fix, just select it and hit Close Curve (or Join... like you did).

Posted
4 minutes ago, JimmyJack said:

Interesting. It's because the outside of the head isn't closed.

Excellent catch. I also realized that you could move the pills out of the head and then just select the head and do a boolean Add on it which will close the head. I wonder if this is a bug? Open curves mean you cannot select the pills (in the open bottle).

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Posted
1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

Excellent catch. I also realized that you could move the pills out of the head and then just select the head and do a boolean Add on it which will close the head. I wonder if this is a bug? Open curves mean you cannot select the pills (in the open bottle).

Yeah, I don’t know what to call it. Bug, ...oversight maybe.

Whatever it is, objects being completely ignored/inaccessible (at least on canvas) doesn’t seem like an acceptable work flow 😜.

Posted
3 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

I also realized that you could move the pills out of the head and then just select the head and do a boolean Add on it which will close the head.

Oh, and fyi, forgot to mention.... you don't need to move anything to do the add (or close/join) fix. 👍

Posted
6 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

Messing about with your file I find that the problem is the Curves layer, the mask and eyeholes. I made a new one with the pen tool and the boolean operations with the result being that I can then select the "Pills" inside it with ease. How was the mask layer made? Copy and paste from some other application?

I just selected the Curves layer in the Layers panel & gave it a fill color. After that, I could select any of the Pill layers by double-clicking on them on the canvas.

No idea if this is a bug or what.

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Posted
2 hours ago, R C-R said:

I just selected the Curves layer in the Layers panel & gave it a fill color. After that, I could select any of the Pill layers by double-clicking on them on the canvas.

No idea if this is a bug or what.

Interesting again. And a fill of 0% still works. And then re-selecting no fill reverts back to no select. 🥴

So a closed curve works regardless of fill, but an open curve needs at least something in the ink well.
An open no fill curve clearly is allowed to have something nested in it (as it should), but that something can't be selected on scream (..... sorry, on screen 😉)

Lookin' buggy to me.

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