Peery Posted May 20, 2022 Posted May 20, 2022 I've been using Affinity for a while. I'm having a problem with one spread (2 pages) of an 8 page document, where the text is faded. I think this has something to do with the fill or stroke settings, but I've spent hours comparing with the good pages and can't seem to find the problem. The attached two page document illustrates the issue. Thank you for advice. Gordon Peery Screenshots.pdf Quote
R C-R Posted May 20, 2022 Posted May 20, 2022 It probably would be easier to figure out what is causing this if you can include a *.afpub file with just the affected pages in it instead of a PDF.... Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
GarryP Posted May 21, 2022 Posted May 21, 2022 As R C-R said above, the AFPUB will probably give us more information than the PDF. In the meantime, why do you have strokes applied to the text? That’s not ‘normal’, especially for body text. Adding a grey stroke to small text could cause the fill of the text – the actual text ‘shapes’ – to be obscured, see attached image. The characters in fonts are usually (with some exceptions) a set of filled shapes and those shapes make up the text. Try removing the strokes from the formatting/text-styles. Quote
Peery Posted May 21, 2022 Author Posted May 21, 2022 Thank you. I hadn't focused on the difference between a stroke in text vs. text box. I went in and made adjustments, however the problem continues. The attached file contains one good page, and then pages 2 and 3 are where this problem is occurring. It looks okay in the file, but it manifests when printing or exporting to PDF. I really appreciate your help. Peery Example1.afpub Quote
R C-R Posted May 21, 2022 Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Peery said: The attached file contains one good page, and then pages 2 and 3 are where this problem is occurring. If you mean for example the text "fire department, and controls like this are not standardized, so versatility is a must" in column 2 of page two, it still has a stroke applied to it. To see this, select some of that text, open the Character panel, & note that in the Decorations section, there is a 0.003 inch stroke applied to it. Set that to none or zero & the text will look the same as the rest of the paragraph. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Peery Posted May 21, 2022 Author Posted May 21, 2022 I'm pretty sure this is resolved it. I just use this program 4 times a year for a newsletter, so without regular immersion it has taken me a while to get used to this level of detail. I'll dig in more tomorrow, but I thank you for your patience, and will confirm tomorrow that this is truly resolved. Quote
Eddy-2 Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 As others have said, some of the text has a stroke applied (see attachment). I think the quickest way to get rid would be to select all the text in the frames (click inside the frames and then select Ctrl+A) then click on the 'no stroke' icon (circle with red diagonal line) to clear the strokes. Hope this helps. Quote
Old Bruce Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Eddy-2 said: I think the quickest way to get rid would be to select all the text in the frames (click inside the frames and then select Ctrl+A) then click on the 'no stroke' icon (circle with red diagonal line) to clear the strokes. To be certain I would first apply a stroke to all the text then set it to 0 (zero) and finally click on the 'no colour' icon (circle with red diagonal line). Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
R C-R Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: To be certain I would first apply a stroke to all the text then set it to 0 (zero) and finally click on the 'no colour' icon (circle with red diagonal line). Why? Has just selecting all the text in a frame & then clicking the 'no stroke' icon ever not cleared all the strokes in the text for you? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Old Bruce Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 I have always thought that the circle with a red line through it refers to colour. You can have a stroke of x points and 'no colour'. My advice is coming from a suspenders & belt or braces & belt kind of mindset. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
R C-R Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: I have always thought that the circle with a red line through it refers to colour. On my Mac, the tooltip for that button is "No Line Style." Whenever I click it, if the selected item has a non-zero stroke width it is immediately reset to zero width. Does it work any differently for you? 13 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: You can have a stroke of x points and 'no colour'. True, but if you click the No Line Style button it still resets the width of the stroke to zero. That should be enough to remove the stroke's effect on the text regardless of the stroke's color. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Old Bruce Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, R C-R said: That should be enough to remove the stroke's effect on the text regardless of the stroke's color. Key word is should, as I stated I like to be certain the stroke is gone. If this were my project I would also check all the text styles for strokes as well and remove them if present. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
R C-R Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: Key word is should, as I stated I like to be certain the stroke is gone. But what I am asking is if in your experience just using the "No Line Style" button has ever failed to set the stroke width to zero, totally & completely removing the effect of the stroke's color on the selected object(s). IOW, does it matter if the stroke is not gone if it is completely invisible? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Old Bruce Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, R C-R said: But what I am asking is if in your experience just using the "No Line Style" button has ever failed to set the stroke width to zero, totally & completely removing the effect of the stroke's color on the selected object(s). IOW, does it matter if the stroke is not gone if it is completely invisible? As I have said I use the 0 point stroke method to get rid of the stroke so I don't have that much, or even any, experience with the other way of working. This is a personal choice of work, I really do like to be absolutely certain. I cannot point to a failure because I haven't used that method. Perhaps there could be problem with an effect applied to a no colour stroke, perhaps I am being far too cautious. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
R C-R Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Old Bruce said: As I have said I use the 0 point stroke method to get rid of the stroke so I don't have that much, or even any, experience with the other way of working. If by the "0 point stroke method" you mean using the slider or numeric field in the Stroke panel to set the stroke width to zero, clicking the "No Line Style" button in the same panel does exactly the same thing. Neither one will remove the stroke color if one was previously set for the targeted object(s). IOW, there is no difference at all in what they do but clicking the button is slightly quicker than moving the slider or setting the field to zero. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
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