Robert Hansford Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) Hey guys! Hope everybody is well. So, I've been working in Publisher a lot lately experimenting with the capabilities of Studio Link. I ran into a behavior, that I don't exactly think is a bug; I'm just a little confused about it. I'm in Photo persona painting a sketch that I drew out, and as I use my brushes, they will randomly become associated with a particular tool. The frustration sets in when I want to break the association. For example, I have a custom watercolor brush that I want to use with both the paintbrush tool and smudge tool. As soon as I began using the brush with the paintbrush tool, its associated tool was set to the paintbrush tool. When I switch over to the smudge tool and try to select it, because the associated tool has been set, it jumps back to the brush tool. Through some experimentation I've discovered that I can break the associated tool behavior by pressing the alt key while selecting the brush. However, when I open the brush settings in order to go in and change the brush's associated tool setting, the drop menu in the brush's editor does not appear. Was this a conscious decision on the part of the team, or am I missing something? I tried too look up the solution in the help manual, but couldn't find information that was helpful. Any suggestions or knowledge on this would be great! Not a huge issue - more like a minor mystery. Cheers! Edited October 29, 2021 by Robert Hansford Clarification Modification Quote 2020 M1 Mac Mini, 16GB, Mac OS Sonoma 14.1.1 iPad Pro 12.9, Gen 4, iPad OS 16.3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Robert Hansford said: I'm in Pixel persona Photo Persona, I presume, as in the topic title? Otherwise you're in the wrong application Interesting question, but I'll need to get to a different computer to see if it works that way for me. Robert Hansford 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Robert Hansford said: As soon as I began using the brush with the paintbrush tool, its associated tool was set to the paintbrush tool. When I switch over to the smudge tool and try to select it, because the associated tool has been set, it jumps back to the brush tool. I am not sure what you mean by "because the associated tool has been set". If I understand you right your two different brush tools seem to stick to each others brush settings? In macOS I get the behavior below, it seems there is no such influence of one tool setting over the other: AP Persona switch between paint & smudge brush.m4v Robert Hansford 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Robert Hansford said: However, when I open the brush settings in order to go in and change the brush's associated tool setting, the drop menu in the brush's editor does not appear. The associated tool option does indeed appear to be missing in the Photo Persona of Publisher Not sure if this was done for a reason or a bug 10 hours ago, Robert Hansford said: For example, I have a custom watercolor brush All I can suggest to try is... Use Affinity Photo to remove the associated tool from that brush Export the brush Go back into the Photo Persona of Publisher and import the brush (delete the old one) Robert Hansford 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Hansford Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, thomaso said: I am not sure what you mean by "because the associated tool has been set". If I understand you right your two different brush tools seem to stick to each others brush settings? In macOS I get the behavior below, it seems there is no such influence of one tool setting over the other: AP Persona switch between paint & smudge brush.m4v Yes, this may have something to do with it. I will test pre-installed brushes tonight to see if the results are consistent with your video. Thank you for the reply and attention! Quote 2020 M1 Mac Mini, 16GB, Mac OS Sonoma 14.1.1 iPad Pro 12.9, Gen 4, iPad OS 16.3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Hansford Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Photo Persona, I presume, as in the topic title? Otherwise you're in the wrong application Interesting question, but I'll need to get to a different computer to see if it works that way for me. Hahah I fixed it! Yes Photo Persona. Can you tell that I spend most of my time in Designer?! walt.farrell 1 Quote 2020 M1 Mac Mini, 16GB, Mac OS Sonoma 14.1.1 iPad Pro 12.9, Gen 4, iPad OS 16.3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Hansford Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, carl123 said: The associated tool option does indeed appear to be missing in the Photo Persona of Publisher Not sure if this was done for a reason or a bug All I can suggest to try is... Use Affinity Photo to remove the associated tool from that brush Export the brush Go back into the Photo Persona of Publisher and import the brush (delete the old one) I did try this, the behavior persisted until I went into Photo and set the associated tool for each brush, exported the new brush file, and installed it in Publisher. Still however, the mystery of the missing “ set associated tool” menu remains. Thank you for the reply!!! Quote 2020 M1 Mac Mini, 16GB, Mac OS Sonoma 14.1.1 iPad Pro 12.9, Gen 4, iPad OS 16.3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Hansford Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 I'd also like to add this question to the conversation; why isn't the assign associated tool option implemented across both Designer and Photo? - It would be just as useful in Designer's pixel persona! Quote 2020 M1 Mac Mini, 16GB, Mac OS Sonoma 14.1.1 iPad Pro 12.9, Gen 4, iPad OS 16.3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Designer's Pixel persona is a severely cut down version of the tools found in APhoto's Photo persona (20 versus 115) So, I don't think we could expect it to have all the functionality of APhoto's tools But the Photo Persona in Publisher has exactly the same number of tools as APhoto so I would expect it to have the "Associated Tool" option there If the "Associated Tool" option is important to you, you may want to raise it as a feature request for Designer and as a separate bug report for Publisher (Bug reports get more attention/feedback) Robert Hansford 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Hansford Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, carl123 said: Designer's Pixel persona is a severely cut down version of the tools found in APhoto's Photo persona (20 versus 115) So, I don't think we could expect it to have all the functionality of APhoto's tools I figured they trimmed the fat there as well. I was just posting the question to see if any mods or devs catching sight of this post had any hands on knowledge of why it was left out. It seems like a small thing, but perhaps it amounts to quite a bit more than I imagined. I was shocked not to find it in Publisher. It seemed to me to be a prominent and distinguishing feature of AP. Still, like I said above - not a complaint or real problem, more like a minor mystery. Very curious about it. - I solved the issue this afternoon. I just remade the brush set in AP assigning the tools to the brushes as desired. Exported to Publisher and carried on. Good times! Quote 2020 M1 Mac Mini, 16GB, Mac OS Sonoma 14.1.1 iPad Pro 12.9, Gen 4, iPad OS 16.3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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