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So thankful for all the support so far. My client's book is nearly complete and I've had some awesome assistance, especially with figuring out the TOC.  This is another TOC question - hopefully the last specific to this book.

This book has a Chapter number and a Chapter title, and some of them are quite long. After fiddling and research, I have the TOC looking almost how I want, except for Chapter One, where the title's length and the tab stops make the number appear directly after the TOC entry instead of to the right. See below.

The others are all correct, so I know that it's a tab stop issue, but I'm not sure how to manipulate it without messing up everything else.

 

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I would probably reword that chapter title :) 

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Yeah, I know that wasn't much help. My only other ideas are to change font sizes in the TOC, or adjust letter or word spacing.

'Though, perhaps you could add a few spaces after the last word as a kind of invisible rewording.

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Are you letting the software decide on the line-breaks or are you inserting them manually. I would insert manually, that would give you a two line chapter one. Break it after 'and'.

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Unrelated, but you should check the capitalization of "And" - it's inconsistent between the various chapter titles. Chapter 1 is title case, chapter 3 is always capitalized.

To solve your problem, you could try changing the capitalization of the chapter numbers (e.g., CHAPTER ONE to Chapter One or Chapter 1) which might provide enough slack to avoid the issue with the first chapter.

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You might also insert line breaks after the ":" in each chapter title.

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5 hours ago, Robert Gibson PWES said:

the title's length and the tab stops make the number appear directly after the TOC entry instead of to the right

Given that there are page numbers for each section (1.1, 1.2, 2.1, etc) do you really need page numbers against the chapter titles? :/

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55 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

You might also insert line breaks after the ":" in each chapter title.

A soft return (Shift-Enter) is actually inserted after the colon so you can see the Chapter on two lines on the page. The unfortunate thing is that, before, the Chapter and the Title were on two lines, each having its own page number

"Chapter Two" Page 31

"Entrepreneurship" Page 31.

This was may way to get away from that issue.

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15 minutes ago, Robert Gibson PWES said:

To be honest, I DID think about that, actually ... to remove the page numbers from the Chapter titles.  How do I do that again? Somebody remind me...

I figured it out LOL What was happening was that my Table of Contents pane wasn't showing up, so I went back to Studio and made sure it was selected.  Now we'll see if the client wants the page numbers in or not.  Thanks, guys!

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1 hour ago, Robert Gibson PWES said:

A soft return (Shift-Enter) is actually inserted after the colon so you can see the Chapter on two lines on the page. The unfortunate thing is that, before, the Chapter and the Title were on two lines, each having its own page number

"Chapter Two" Page 31

"Entrepreneurship" Page 31.

This was may way to get away from that issue.

Try like this, the second example:

The actual heading on page 2 looks like this

Chapter One

this is two lines

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Bonsoir à tous.

Assez d'accord avec @Old Bruce. Cela parait être un compromis assez classique. D'autant que la composition est en drapeau. Il serait même intéressant de systématiser pour être cohérent dans l'ensemble de la tdm.

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I quite agree with @Old Bruce. This seems to be a fairly classic compromise. Especially since the composition is in flag. It would even be interesting to systematize to be consistent throughout the toc.

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