Embed function in Designer

[joem007]

I hope I'm on the correct place in the forum. 

When I try to use the embed function in designer, I click on place document but don't get an option to embed. It just allows me to place a document straight into the document but not embedding it? 

I guess I'm doing something wrong, but can't see what. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Joe

[GarryP]

Welcome to the forums @joem007

Yes, you are in the right place.
When you first place an external document into Designer you do not get the option to embed, as you have seen.
However, once you have placed the document into yours you can use the Replace Document button in the Context Toolbar and then re-select the same document, change the option to Embed, and then press Open. The document will now be embedded. (The same works for images except you have to press the Replace Image button instead.)
I have no idea why we cannot choose to embed or link the document the first time we place it; there may be a good technical reason.

Edit: Please read the post by carl123 below for another way to change whether the document is embeded or linked, and a way to set-up your document so that things are linked or embedded by default.

Edited March 12, 2021 by GarryP
Added extra note.

[joem007]

Hi Garry

Thanks very much for the prompt response and resolution. I'm try that this afternoon. Much obliged again. 

[carl123]

When you first create a Designer document you get to choose if images will be embedded or linked (Image Placement Policy on new document screen).

If you have selected linked and wish to change that document/image to embedded go to View > Resource Manager and change it there (and vice versa)

[joem007]

5 hours ago, carl123 said:

When you first create a Designer document you get to choose if images will be embedded or linked (Image Placement Policy on new document screen).

If you have selected linked and wish to change that document/image to embedded go to View > Resource Manager and change it there (and vice versa)

5 hours ago, carl123 said:

When you first create a Designer document you get to choose if images will be embedded or linked (Image Placement Policy on new document screen).

If you have selected linked and wish to change that document/image to embedded go to View > Resource Manager and change it there (and vice versa)

Thanks for that Carl, good to know.

[joem007]

5 hours ago, GarryP said:

Welcome to the forums @joem007

Yes, you are in the right place.
When you first place an external document into Designer you do not get the option to embed, as you have seen.
However, once you have placed the document into yours you can use the Replace Document button in the Context Toolbar and then re-select the same document, change the option to Embed, and then press Open. The document will now be embedded. (The same works for images except you have to press the Replace Image button instead.)
I have no idea why we cannot choose to embed or link the document the first time we place it; there may be a good technical reason.

Edit: Please read the post by carl123 below for another way to change whether the document is embeded or linked, and a way to set-up your document so that things are linked or embedded by default.

Thanks Garry, I realise where I think I was going wrong.   I had just been inserting images, not affinity files.

However I find when I place an affinity file (image B) into a documents it is labelled as an embedded file (all good)

But I wanted to create a new document and insert that same affinity file (image B) say multiple times.

Then when I adjust the original affinity file (image B) the alterations are carried out live onto the copies in the second document. But this is not the case the changes are not carried over.    I'm still not getting it?

Thanks again in advance

 

[Alfred]

22 minutes ago, joem007 said:

However I find when I place an affinity file (image B) into a documents it is labelled as an embedded file (all good)

But I wanted to create a new document and insert that same affinity file (image B) say multiple times.

Then when I adjust the original affinity file (image B) the alterations are carried out live onto the copies in the second document. But this is not the case the changes are not carried over.    I'm still not getting it?

When you choose to embed a file, a copy of that file is added to the document. If you want any changes to the original file to be reflected in your document, you need to link it instead.

Affinity Designer Help: Embedding vs linking

[joem007]

6 minutes ago, Alfred said:

When you choose to embed a file, a copy of that file is added to the document. If you want any changes to the original file to be reflected in your document, you need to link it instead.

Affinity Designer Help: Embedding vs linking

Thanks so much Alfred, I had watched a tutorial online that showed how to use live update using embed... I'll try as you suggest.

Thanks again.

[joem007]

This is where I got the notion that I could embed an image into a document (see link below). Then once embedded, alterations made to the original altered the others.

I am unable to replicate this

 

https://webdesign.tutsplus.com/courses/affinity-designer-quick-start/lessons/real-time-embedded-object-editing

 

Thanks again in advance

Edited March 13, 2021 by joem007

[Alfred]

18 minutes ago, joem007 said:

This is where I got the notion that I could embed an image into a document (see link below). Then once embedded, alterations made to the original altered the others.

That tutorial starts off by saying you can drop in “JPEGs or PNGs or anything you want” but then goes on to contrast this with real-time editing of embedded Affinity Designer files. The latter are Affinity documents, not image files, so they don’t behave the same way.

[joem007]

44 minutes ago, Alfred said:

That tutorial starts off by saying you can drop in “JPEGs or PNGs or anything you want” but then goes on to contrast this with real-time editing of embedded Affinity Designer files. The latter are Affinity documents, not image files, so they don’t behave the same way.

Sure, I agree they are affinity docs, and that's what I am trying to replicate using affinity docs as the presenter seems to do using affinity docs.

But I am not having any luck.

[Old Bruce]

Two documents, one for placing (embedding) one for working with that embedded document. Both are Designer Documents. Jpegs, pngs, svgs etc will not work. Affinity Photo or Designer or even Publisher Documents will work.
First I place the document and then close it because I do not need to see it, I didn’t even need to open it in the first place.

Now I copy and paste and power duplicate and make more copies of that original embedded document. 

I do not place more copies of it. 
I do not drag and drop from the finder or any where else.
I do not import in any manner any more copies of it. 

I work with the copies of the single imported/placed document.

[joem007]

Hi Old Bruce,

I appreciate your time and also the video explainer (which helped tremendously).

I now can alter the one image impacting the the other images contained within the document by using the method you have described.

Thanks once again for taking the time to assist.