Jump to content
You must now use your email address to sign in [click for more info] ×

What did I do and how do I undo it? Adjustment layer has its own shape


Recommended Posts

I've been using Affinity Photo to process some TIFF scans of negatives. Once I figured out the basic set of filters I wanted I've been copying them from one file to the next. When I began work on this photo I selected the group of adjustments from another and pasted it in. It was then that I noticed a surprising bounding box with the Move tool selected.

I tracked down the culprits to these two layers. I have no idea how they got to be those shapes. The fill layer affects the entire underlying pixel layer, but I am not sure if the noise reduction one goes outside of the box shown.

How on earth did these get this way, does it matter, and how to I get them back to "normal" aside from just removing and recreating those layers?

Screen Shot 2021-03-08 at 16.30.52.png

Screen Shot 2021-03-08 at 16.31.04.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The fill layer must have been created at some point, it could not have be an adjustment layer in a previous incarnation. If you don't know what it's for either turn it off or delete it.

The noise adjustment layer would be better off being deleted and a new adjustment layer added and tweaked to taste. 

iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9  
B| (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum)

Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Perhaps I misspoke in calling the fill layer an adjustment layer, but it was created on a rectangular image and copied between image files, none of which has ever been square, let alone that size. I figured a Fill Layer was something different than a pixel layer in that it intrinsically covered the whole canvas area at all times.

And I'd rather not go deleting the layer and recreating as the whole point of copying across between images is to have a good starting point for the next image.

I would like to understand why a Noise Reduction layer can have a shape where none of the other filters or adjustments do.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Can you upload the Affinity Photo document shown above?

To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here it is. I was surprised the forum accepted such a large file. Occupational hazard with this type of software I guess.

I noticed last night that the noise reduction layer has somehow gained a mask, which I guess may have occurred due to cropping on one of the photos. The noise reduction is curiously applied across the entire canvas, not just the bounding rectangle, except in a strip at the bottom of the rectangle. That now makes me wonder if the rectangle is the bounding box of any mask pixels and that clearing the mask (how do I do that?) would resolve that layer's oddity.  EDIT: I figured out that Edit > Fill with white achieves this — the layer now has no mask nor bounding box.

That still leaves the fill layer which absolutely affects the entire canvas and I have no idea why it is represented as a small square.

ARJ_1999_UKF1_18.afphoto

Edited by zkarj
Followup
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would simply delete the fill layer and denoise layer and reproduce them, the denoise filter settings are simple enough, Luminance 50% Luminance detail 25%

Whatever it is on the denoise adjustment layer it appears to be on the Alpha channel.

iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9  
B| (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum)

Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Staff

Hi zkarj,
The Noise Reduction Adjustment has a built-in mask applied - that's what the bounding box is marking/delimiting. Press and hold alt and click the adjustment thumbnail in the Layers panel to render it as a greyscale image so you can see it (the mask) - click somewhere else to return to the regular view. To remove/clear the mask go to the Channels panel (make sure adjustment layer is selected in the Layers panel), right-click the Noise Reduction Alpha channel and select Fill - to fill the mask with white. The bounding box will then disappear.

The Fill layer has two small circles: one on the top left and another on the bottom right that define the bounding box. You can fill the Fill layer the same way described above (or any other method) to clean it up/fill it with white (Fill layers also have built-in masks). Hide the bottom background layer temporarily (the plane image), zoom in on the bottom right corner of the bounding box of the fill layer and you should see one of them.

fill_layer.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks @MEB. All bounding boxes are now gone.

I have previously come across the concept of masks creating bounding boxes, but usually where I deliberately mask a pixel layer. It had not occurred to me that I must have painted (probably when using in-painting to remove dust and scratches). And it would not have occurred to me that a fill layer has a mask at all.

Lessons learned! Now I need to go back to my earlier images and probably clean them up.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Guidelines | We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.