clicking on object selects object halfway across/down page

[scott culberson]

went about 2 wk without using a file. Opened to use again. now if I attempt to select object, it selects other items halfway down/across the page. Perhaps 100 or 200 objects on the page. Some text, some line-drawn closed figures. Some grouped objects. Behaves this way with all them. If I click to select the Text button (in the button menu down the side of the window), nothing happens. 

IIRC my mac showed a notice that the Affinity Draw software had updated about a week or so ago, between the last time I saved this file, and now. Had worked in it extensively, open - work - save -close - later more work several x and never had a problem.

 

emailed this file to my daughter's mac and Affinity Draw suffers the same selection bug as on mine. 

Opened other affinity draw files, and they too now suffer this selection bug. 

LZ Level Pull Animation.afdesign

[firstdefence]

This is one crazy document and totally screwed up, just when you think you have one part sorted it does something else.

@scott culberson is there a font or fonts you are using in the document, the reason I ask is the text all over the place and going outside of the boxes bounds they are grouped with. 

Found one font missing: Candara

 

[scott culberson]

yes it is a crazy document. stream of consciousness. kinda happened.

There are a mix of fonts. don't really care which font. just want one that works. hmm

[Alfred]

25 minutes ago, firstdefence said:

Found one font missing: Candara

Candara is one of a number of fonts released with Windows Vista and designed to work well with Microsoft’s ClearType. I’m not surprised that it’s missing from Macs (edit: unless you have MS Office installed, as @firstdefence has pointed out)!

[firstdefence]

I had MS Office (Mac) installed so I grabbed the Candara font from there and installed it so the text looks better now. Still trying to work out whats wrong. By the way which app did you make this in?

You can make a lot of the icons in the document either Assets and or symbols to make adding repetitive stuff easier to add, but I’m getting ahead of myself. 

Some of the things I’ve found so far...

• There seems to be duplicates of some stuff
• The dashed lines can have arrowheads without the need to draw an arrow head, you do that from the stroke panel 
• Putting each design panel onto it’s own artboard removes some of the issues like selecting text and it jumping to a different text block, regardless of whether it’s grouped or not.

[MEB]

Hi scott culberson,
Welcome to Affinity Forums
Thanks for reporting this. This behaviour is due to some changes we made for v1.8.4 that end up breaking a few things. If you have access to the previous version you can still open and work there without issues. I'm logging this to be looked at. We hope to have it fixed as soon as possible.

Thread moved to Designer Bugs found on MacOS section.

[scott culberson]

1 hour ago, firstdefence said:

I had MS Office (Mac) installed so I grabbed the Candara font from there and installed it so the text looks better now. Still trying to work out whats wrong. By the way which app did you make this in?

You can make a lot of the icons in the document either Assets and or symbols to make adding repetitive stuff easier to add, but I’m getting ahead of myself. 

Some of the things I’ve found so far...

• There seems to be duplicates of some stuff
• The dashed lines can have arrowheads without the need to draw an arrow head, you do that from the stroke panel 
• Putting each design panel onto it’s own artboard removes some of the issues like selecting text and it jumping to a different text block, regardless of whether it’s grouped or not.

Thank you. I do have MSOffice on the Mac. Why it would not now "find" it or recognize it being there, I don't know. 

Am a very elementary user just for sketching and the like - will look at the arrowhead thing. "you don't know what you don't know". 

Will look into the symbols or Assets. Good pointer for where my next "education" steps need to take me. 

 

Great of you to respond.

[firstdefence]

You’re welcome Scott, the post subject matter is actually very interesting and I’ve noticed that quite a few of the flowchart apps both desktop and online have Icons for Value stream mapping (VSM). There are a few companies I deal with that I think might benefit from this kind of business analysis and once I’ve read up a bit more I might suggest a business review via VSM so thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[scott culberson]

5 hours ago, firstdefence said:

You’re welcome Scott, the post subject matter is actually very interesting and I’ve noticed that quite a few of the flowchart apps both desktop and online have Icons for Value stream mapping (VSM). There are a few companies I deal with that I think might benefit from this kind of business analysis and once I’ve read up a bit more I might suggest a business review via VSM so thanks for bringing this to my attention.

FWIW I was pressed for time yesterday but did take some initial steps on your advice. Started a clean file, deleted the text objects that were being selected by pointing elsewhere. Recreated anew. The recreated texts (some not all) are experiencing the same "point here to select way over there" issue.   I do a lot of VS synthesis and analysis work - really brought to Affinity Designer looking for Mac substitute for visio. VS is really about how system thinking connects the units into a whole that is the sum of the parts. So I wouldn't give two hoots about stuff that inputs a bunch of data, rolls it up automatically, and spaces things on a page for you automatically. The manner of connections in a complex system is the determining factor for how it behaves (or fails to).

On mac, the Affinity is much lighter than visio, less kludgy and clunky to move around. 

It's likely I'm displaying my ignorance again, but one feature in Visio that would really be a time saver in AD, is that if you create a box or circle or triangle or any closed form, if you double click on it you can put text inside that closed figure. I spent a lot of time in AD making the closed figure I wanted, only to overlay a text on it. If you don't group them you risk misaligning inadvertently. But if you do group them, then you have to ungroup to manipulate. Lot of double- and triple-touches there. 

Visio pro allows to size and manipulate shapes' attributes based on .xls file you can associate. IN some cases I have used it to size process boxes or timelines, based on process data .xls. I don't imagine you'll be getting into all that, but if you did I would have no reason to upkeep Visio anymore. 

Show me a closed figure that I can annotate without multi extra steps and you have slain 98% of reason to go to Visio for VS work. 

Just my $0.02 worth.     Thanks for the followup on the selection probs. 

[Alfred]

28 minutes ago, scott culberson said:

It's likely I'm displaying my ignorance again, but one feature in Visio that would really be a time saver in AD, is that if you create a box or circle or triangle or any closed form, if you double click on it you can put text inside that closed figure.

If you click on a closed shape with one of the text tools, it will turn into a shaped frame. Please note that the original object will no longer exist, so if you want to retain a stroke and/or fill that you’ve applied to the shape you need to duplicate it first: the text frame will then lie exactly on top of the original shape, yielding the desired visual effect.

[scott culberson]

2 minutes ago, Alfred said:

If you click on a closed shape with one of the text tools, it will turn into a shaped frame. Please note that the original object will no longer exist, so if you want to retain a stroke and/or fill that you’ve applied to the shape you need to duplicate it first: the text frame will then lie exactly on top of the original shape, yielding the desired visual effect.

Thank you. Very considerate of you to take the time.