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Soft hyphen behaves like No Break?

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I would not call it a bug and I guess there is a setting I forgot. Sometimes adding a soft hyphen makes an already autmatically hyphenated word act like I defined a No Break for this word. In the attached image (lower image) I would like to add a soft hyphen inside the word Luftschlitze right after the t (I know that this word would never be hyphenated there, just for giving an example).

After adding the soft hyphen the complete word Luftschlitze moves to the next line as if there was never an automatic hyphenation after Luft. Is there something I can do to prevent this? I use the Hyphenation defaults in the panel, the Language is set to German and Luftschlitze is part of the dictionary.

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softhyphen-before.jpg

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Oh my God, it is full of typos.

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Possibly you have set the Minimum suffix to a value larger than 2 ?
For me the auto-hyphenation works for both your examples, means for ...schlit-ze without any manual set hyphen or break:

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Hi thomaso, thx for your reply, but your hyphenation settings are identical to mine. Attached a file, where you can try it yourself. Font is Milo OT.

softhyphen.afpub


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If you use soft hyphenation you'll need to specify all the hyphenation points you want to use, as you've indicated that you're taking over the hyphenation. From the Hyphenation help topic :

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Auto-hyphenation has no effect on words that contain a soft hyphen. You can put a soft hyphen at the beginning of a word to prevent it being hyphenated altogether.

 


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Joachim, (I don't have your Milo font but I think hyphenation is not font related anyway)

You don't need a manual or softhyphen here. The standard dictionary obviously knows them both in Luft-schlit-ze and also uses them if there is enough space. When I simply add characters to your frame I see it break at -ze, possibly there is just slightly too little space in a situation where it does not break at -ze.

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Also I guess your additional horizontal spacing ("Tracking") does influence the hyphenation because of influencing the space of the space character, too:

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p.s.: man könnte hier auch "schlechtes Augenmaß" vermuten – ein Schelm, wer Böses (bug) dabei denkt ... ;)

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