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I'm getting this horrible effect with left justified text. There should be (may be) a setting which prevents a short sentence being spread in this way, but for the life of me I can't find it within the Paragraph justification settings...

Screenshot 2019-07-16 at 12.00.12 pm.jpg

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It looks like you have chosen Justify All, rather than Justify Left:

image.png.64fc419362f521e66791ca4d0e6bc32f.png

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

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    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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yes, it may look like that but I can promise you that I've not missed something as obvious as that - I've tried every permutation of justification. What I can't find is a setting which sets the width at which justification isn't applied. Can't think of the term but I'm used to having it in Word and in the old day Freehand. Just to prove the point here's what the same two lines with the setting which you suggest (Justify All) applied:

Screenshot 2019-07-17 at 8.38.16 am.jpg

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Hi John

1 hour ago, John Fleet said:

What I can't find is a setting which sets the width at which justification isn't applied. Can't think of the term but I'm used to having it in Word

@walt.farrell was referring to the different options that can be found by using the drop down arrow to the right of the full justification in the context toolbar. The second screenshot down shows what you are used to by applying the setting in Word options to prevent last lines stretching to the extremes. The third down is just the normal left align. The bottom screenshot in the image shows further adjustments that are in the Paragraph Panel, these can be adjusted to suit the flow you would prefer, you might need to adjust all 3 to achieve a more pleasing justification depending on your text.

Justify.png

Posted

 

1 hour ago, John Fleet said:

yes, it may look like that but I can promise you that I've not missed something as obvious as that

OK. It's a common thing to miss (from other posts here), so it seemed a good first suggestion.

With further research, I see that even with Justify Left, if you have inserted a Line Break after "Secretary." and after ".com" you'll see that behavior. Here's a duplication of what you showed:

image.png.c1b4152117132dda5bbaea92337f3493.png

There's a space after "Secretary" and a line-break after "com", and the frame is narrow enough that Publisher needed to break after "Secretary". This is with Justify Left.

I know of two solutions:

  1. HIghlight those lines, and mark them as Align Left, rather than Justify Left: image.png.37a76b7496b0805fd931ca9691b3dc26.png
  2. The other is to use Enter after each line, so each is the last line of their paragraph, and to use a Paragraph Style that has Space After set to 0.

By the way, you've posted in Photo Bugs found on MacOS, but you're talking about Publisher. For future reference, the Publisher bugs forumfor MacOS is here. A moderator will probably move this when they notice that it's misplaced.

I don't think you've found a bug, but there is probably room for improvement in the handling of justification. Thanks for providing a good example.

 

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

Posted

Thanks Walt - sorry I managed to post in the wrong forum - doh!

As you suggest, my workaround was indeed to align left these two lines.

@murfee - yes I've spent some time playing with the adjustments in the paragraph panel; without managing to get the result I wanted, but thanks for the suggestion.

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