Aeros4 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Please anyone, Can this workflow be replicated in AP? If so please show me. www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOZjyfrCao4&t=7s Edited January 20, 2017 by Patrick Connor edited to avoid forum preview bug HaroldRurry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 In case anyone wonder; here's the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOZjyfrCao4&t=7s Quote - Affinity Photo 2.3.0 - Affinity Designer 2.3.0 -Affinity Publisher 2.3.0 MacBook Pro 16 GB MacOS Sonoma 14.1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verysame Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Aeros4, Quite in a rush at the moment, but from a quick glance at the video, it doesn't seem too complicated. By chance, did you try already and you got stuck for some reason? Quote Andrew - Win10 x64 AMD Threadripper 1950x, 64GB, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + 2TB, dual GTX 1080ti Dual Monitor Dell Ultra HD 4k P2715Q 27-Inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros4 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Verysame, hello; I did take a look, but the edges filter looked a lot different. I would have a hard time with this project in AP. Merci Madame for posting the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verysame Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Aeros4, It's a little difficult to understand where you have problems with the edges. I did a quick test tonight, and it's definitely achievable, only I don't know exactly what the effect you are after has to look like, especially because the tutorial you linked is low res. Anyway, here are a few renders. Original picture (the original is here) Treatment for the watercolor: For the edges, you can have many variations. And personally I would push it a little more, although I prefer without the edges: Of course, the result can be improved a lot. For instance, I would work on blending the areas better in order to make them more liquid-like. On a side note, working with the latest beta, 1.5.1.54, it's really a better experience compared to the previous releases. I've used live filters for the watercolor and the edges and AP didn't flinch. anon1 1 Quote Andrew - Win10 x64 AMD Threadripper 1950x, 64GB, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + 2TB, dual GTX 1080ti Dual Monitor Dell Ultra HD 4k P2715Q 27-Inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aeros4 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 "Why re-invent the wheel" Hello Hans; I was trying to do this technique in AP as I am able to do in PS 6. I prefer to move all my workflow over to AP. Your suggestion to look at other third party programs is not where I intended to go, however, I do sincerely appreciate your help. I will give the options you provided a good look. Thank you very much for your time and help. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros4 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Good morning Verysame; I can't thank you enough for the amount of work you did in response to my post, kudos Sir. I am very impressed with your sample posted. As a result, I will spend the time to do the crossover to AP. I have read in other posts by folks very proficient with PS, their problems are caused by the difference in UI, this is exactly my problem, trying to unlearn one system in order to learn a new one. Thanks again for your remarkable effort. :) :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon1 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 so to get this straight: this is not possible in AP in a similar workflow because AP has not yet such stylised filters like PS has there is a looks persona on the roadmap though which I think might give us something similar to shorten the video a bit and help others what he does is: - detect edges - desaturate that layer - choose a darkening blend mode - apply a stylisation effect to the underlying layer you can try my paint effect macro to get a stylised look for the image layer, but it is not exactly watercolour like https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/32907-affinity-photo-performance-comparison-data-sheet/?p=159980 @verysame how did you apply the watercolour treatment look in AP? apart from using the paper sheet as a background, how did you soften the colours/ blend them? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verysame Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Aeros4, Np. In case it may be helpful, here's the file. https://www.sendspace.com/file/j8uf15 All the filters used are pretty self-explanatory. The only effect that is not editable, is the detect edges which is already applied. I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for. If so, and you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask. @ Hans: Because of a few reasons. Why pay for another app when we already have Affinity? Why use a free app which does the work for you? What control do you have over the process? Except for a few parameters, the user can just click and wait. What can you learn by using a third-party app created appositely for that effect? Because: why Affinity Photo? There was already Photoshop. Because "re-inventing" the wheel is the process that moves creativity. It let us discover different ways to achieve similar and sometimes, unexpected results. Best, Andrew Quote Andrew - Win10 x64 AMD Threadripper 1950x, 64GB, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + 2TB, dual GTX 1080ti Dual Monitor Dell Ultra HD 4k P2715Q 27-Inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verysame Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 [...] @verysame how did you apply the watercolour treatment look in AP? apart from using the paper sheet as a background, how did you soften the colours/ blend them? cheers MBd, We posted at the same time. I posted the file as you were adding your contribution :) anon1 1 Quote Andrew - Win10 x64 AMD Threadripper 1950x, 64GB, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + 2TB, dual GTX 1080ti Dual Monitor Dell Ultra HD 4k P2715Q 27-Inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon1 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 ah I see a displacement map and a median blur very nice and elegant approach cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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verysame Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Hans, It's different. A filter hasn't one use only. That's why it takes our creativity to use them in different ways. A gaussian blur, for instance, is meant to soften part of an image. But then for instance, if you combine it with levels or curves, it becomes a handy tool for tweaking masks. A ready-made effect like the apps you mentioned are meant to achieve a pre-defined set of effects and that's it. As for the slower pace, it's all relative. I tried Fotosketcher and it was very slow, even just with the image I used in my example. But what really matters is, once you master the technique, you not only get the effect but you understand the principle. Next time you know already how to do it and it applies to any compositing software. So, yes you spend a little time to experiment at the beginning, but you gain a lot in the long term. Using an app leaves you where you are: no knowledge and limited choices. Quote Andrew - Win10 x64 AMD Threadripper 1950x, 64GB, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + 2TB, dual GTX 1080ti Dual Monitor Dell Ultra HD 4k P2715Q 27-Inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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verysame Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Andrew Uhm,so you think I should stick to my real paper and real brushes to be a master at this technique :lol: Was just showing other options to get a result. What's the creative way is debatable and sometimes choosing the one tool over the other is also a sign of creativity. [...] Hans What I mean is that looking for new solutions is worth it. I get that you were only suggesting another option, my opinion is that going for the cheap way is not a good solution. For instance, since we have Instagram, why bother with Affinity Photo? It may works for someone, especially in the short term, but doesn't help getting better at something. By the way, Affinity Photo doesn't only offers filters, but a whole set of tools, such as brushes, color adjustments, selections and so on so forth. The more we master these tools, the better we get. It's like telling someone who wants to learn the art of cooking to go out and get a Mcburger :) Edit: just to be clear, I personally don't think there's nothing wrong with the fact that you suggested an alt. solution. In the end, it's up to us to decide what works best. Plus, conversation is always a good thing ;) Quote Andrew - Win10 x64 AMD Threadripper 1950x, 64GB, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + 2TB, dual GTX 1080ti Dual Monitor Dell Ultra HD 4k P2715Q 27-Inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros4 Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 I enjoyed the conversation and exchange of ideas, thank you all for your energetic responses. :D verysame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEF13 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hi all ! Personally I prefer use Filter Forge. It's a powerful tool to create all kind of filters : you can do it yourself or choose one from a huge library ... and it works fine with AP. Lots of graphic studio use this kind of powerful plugin without shame ... Quote CB Visual Design Artistic Director | Graphic Designer | Studio PhotographerBehance : https://www.behance.net/FRANCOIS79e1 Flikr : https://www.flickr.com/photos/def13_marseille/ Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=AAIAABpT9VoBqrysY5JsJxJIOdrcF9Arpa6J45I&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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