Chris26 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Hallo, Windows 10 desktop. This often happens and I have always used a work around (placed text on image in A.photo then re-imported), but to be honest I am fed up with this now and would like to know why publisher does this? Thank you. The Letter.mp4 Quote Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed. Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener. Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.
GarryP Posted February 3 Posted February 3 It looks like your image has a Text Wrap applied to it. To make the text visible when it is ‘over’ the image you can select the Frame Text layer and set “Ignore Text Wraps” ON in the Text Frame Panel. This is normal behaviour because the software doesn’t know which text you don’t want to be part of the wrapping process until you tell it. Callum and Chris26 1 1 Quote
Chris26 Posted February 3 Author Posted February 3 Hi Garry thanks, but this is the first thing I do always, and this is not the issue. Image attached, some of my other texts work perfectly when moving them on top of images and others not. Mystery continues. It has been happening for last few years, but only now have I decided to ask the question. If no solution I will simply continue with placing image into Photo and adding the text as a part of the image which is not convenient since updates force me to change texts now and again. Quote Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed. Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener. Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.
GarryP Posted February 4 Posted February 4 14 hours ago, Chris26 said: Image attached I think you might have forgotten to attach the image. 14 hours ago, Chris26 said: If no solution I will simply continue with placing image into Photo and adding the text as a part of the image which is not convenient since updates force me to change texts now and again. Without more information it might be difficult for anyone to give you a solution. All we can see of the problem is what you have shown in your limited-screen-area video whereas what we actually need to see are various other things (Panels, settings, etc.) that aren’t in the video. (When posting images and videos, please try and show us everything that you can see if possible, otherwise you are making it more difficult for us to help you.) If you can share the AFPUB document then we can dig into it and (hopefully) find the cause. Quote
Chris26 Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 Thanks Garry for responding, yes sorry I forgot to add that image on last post. I decided to make one last video,hopefully detailing more information as you asked. If you see no solution then this is absolutely fine, I will continue as always. It's no huge problem. Thank you for taking the time to look anyway. The Letter.mp4 Quote Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed. Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener. Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.
GarryP Posted February 5 Posted February 5 You’re using Text Wrapping incorrectly. You set text wrapping on the things you want to wrap text around, like images etc. Only set the Text Wrapping for things that you want the text to go around. And I can’t see in your video where you set “Ignore Text Wraps” for the Frame Text layers in the Text Frame Panel as suggested. And you haven’t shown us the whole screen, as requested. Quote
GarryP Posted February 5 Posted February 5 I’ve attached a video which shows (a) what I think you have got and (b) how to fix it. 2025-02-05 12-55-11.mp4 Chris26 1 Quote
Chris26 Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 Hallo Garry, I sincerely appreciate this video. I have never once noticed that check box "Ignore text wraps', I also did look for it when you suggested but could not find it. So I do appreciate the video. Also it did solve the problem. But here is the interesting thing, as I mentioned, I have often put text over an image, sometimes it worked sometimes it did not, now since I have never clicked that little box "Ignore text wraps', I obviously never became aware of this being a solution, and I did search in the help files but using key words when you don't know the problem is tricky. Quote Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed. Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener. Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.
GarryP Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Hmm… Now you’ve got me wondering how you could sometimes do this without knowing about the Ignore Text Wraps checkbox. My guess is that you could have set the text wrapping incorrectly and that just happened to let you do what you want, but there could easily have been another reason. Or maybe there's a small bug in there somewhere that needs 'rooting out'. Maybe someone else has some ideas. If you can supply a document where we can see it in action then we can probably figure it out. Quote
Chris26 Posted Tuesday at 09:49 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 09:49 AM Hallo Garry,, Sorry to be a bit late in replying, unfortunately I have updated so much and changed a couple of mages before I saw your post. I will go through the document and see where I have publisher text moving over the image as opposed to text I added in A.Photo then imported. I will then look at the text wrap setting for that frame and if it is "Unticked" then I will post that page here for you to look at. If you do not here from me over the next 48 hours, then this mean that I changed too much for the file to retain its original issue. Thank you. Quote Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed. Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener. Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.
GarryP Posted Tuesday at 09:56 AM Posted Tuesday at 09:56 AM I can totally understand that you might not be able to now replicate the issue in a working document. Things have to be done and we can’t always wait for other things to possibly happen; stuff needs to go ‘out of the door’ regardless. 6 minutes ago, Chris26 said: text I added in A.Photo then imported That makes me wonder what you were doing because it sounds like a strange workflow to me. That’s probably a good place to start looking for problems. Chris26 1 Quote
Chris26 Posted Tuesday at 11:08 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 11:08 AM (edited) hi Garry, back quicker that I thought possible. I had to retrieve an older version with some original images, unfortunately I can not replicate anything. BUT, this particular image was a culprit - however as you can see, I can type text and place it on top of the image no problem. As for workflow with A.Photo. Sometimes need to edit the image in A,photo that can not be done in publisher, sometimes need to edit the original image freshly loaded into A.photo independently, however when this issue did occur of not being able to add text on top of the image (not often) I needed to add text in A.Photo where it was flattened. So I do not see that editing in A.Photo should have been any problem since these options from Publisher are normal workflows. Here is a page from an older file. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ EDIT Gary, just managed to find this second image that does exactly what I said, however, when I do indeed click the 'Ignore Test wrap' option everything is fine. I just thought I wold send this to you because it is an example about where some images hide text and some do not REGARDLESS of that text wrap option being off (UnTicked) Page_one.afpub PageOne_InHousePrint_V3.afpub Edited Tuesday at 11:22 AM by Chris26 another image uploaded Quote Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed. Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener. Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.
GarryP Posted Tuesday at 01:03 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:03 PM Thanks for the example documents. I just loaded the PageOne_InHousePrint_V3 document into Publisher 1.10.6 on Windows 10 and the “abcd” Frame Text layer text wraps around the image before I change anything. But after I check “Ignore Text Wraps” for that Frame Text layer, the text doesn’t wrap and can be seen on top of the image. So that all looks okay to me. In the Page_one document, the Image Layer has no Text Wrap (it’s set to “None”) so that’s why you can see the text over the image, and no “Ignore Text Wrap” setting is necessary for the Frame Text layers. I’m not seeing anything that I would not expect. Chris26 1 Quote
Chris26 Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM Hi Garry, sorry, but I must be missing something here. In the Page_one file the text goes on the Image quite happily; in the PageOne_InHousePrint_V3 the text does not go over the image. BUT, they are BOTH doing this with the Text Wrap setting UNCLICKED. Theoretically in this case thePage_one file text should NOT be visible, according to the fact that in neither case is the Text wrap setting set to ignore. Quote Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed. Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener. Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.
thomaso Posted Tuesday at 04:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:26 PM 12 minutes ago, Chris26 said: Text Wrap setting UNCLICKED. Theoretically in this case thePage_one file text should NOT be visible This sounds like a misunderstanding. A deactivated text wrap has no influence on the text and its appearance. The text appears behind the image: An activated text wrap results in text being "hidden" or flowing around the corresponding image. The text gets moved and does not appear behind the image: Chris26 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1
Chris26 Posted Wednesday at 09:35 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 09:35 AM Thomaso - my fault for using the wrong words. I am referring, throughout this post, to the "Ignore Text Wrap" feature in the Frame text drop down menu, NOT the actual text wrapping, which of course I have used for years now. Anyway, not to take up anybody's time anymore. Thank you for your response. Quote Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed. Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener. Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.
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