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If I have a page with ungrouped objects on the left side as shown:

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and in 2.5.7 I move the left page after the right page or add or delete a single page before it, nothing changes, the objects remain in the same position. In 2.6.0, the objects become mirrored.

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I understand why it's doing this but it made a huge mess in my family history book. The objects in that document are small text frames distributed horizontally listing events in date order as a timeline. When the page side changes, the order of events is reversed, so I wind up with reversed timelines. For adding and deleting single pages, the timelines on every following page was reversed.

I can work around this, I just need to group all objects on the document page, but it's probably going to trip up others who have ungrouped diagrams, flowcharts, org charts, and so on in their documents and then will be surprised to find them mirrored when adding, moving, or deleting a single page.

I wish I'd noticed this earlier in the beta cycle but I'm just starting to edit my three long books in 2.6. It's only a problem for my family history book because all content in my other books is in the master page layer.

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Hi @MikeTO,

10 hours ago, MikeTO said:

If I have a page with ungrouped objects on the left side as shown: and in 2.5.7 I move the left page after the right page or add or delete a single page before it, nothing changes, the objects remain in the same position. In 2.6.0, the objects become mirrored.

This is the expected behaviour when Anchor Toward Spine is selected under the Page Move Options menu...

With your sample file deselecting Anchor Towards Spine negates the mirroring...

For more complex layouts this is the guidance...

Anchor Toward Spine

When a page element moves from one side of the spine to the other (either a page object or a master object that is being moved via Move Master Content) Anchor Toward Spine controls whether it maintains its absolute position on the page or its distance from the spine.

If your margins are symmetrical about the spine but different for the inner and outer, Anchor Toward Spine is more likely to keep things glued to the margins. However, objects aligned to an outer page edge may unexpectedly move to align to the opposite edge. This can be avoided by pinning the object.

10 hours ago, MikeTO said:

It's probably going to trip up others who have ungrouped diagrams, flowcharts, org charts, and so on in their documents and then will be surprised to find them mirrored when adding, moving, or deleting a single page.

I think that is likely true, but like any change, it will take time to adapt to the new page layout functionality and a slightly different way of working. Equally, once understood, it makes sense and is much more flexible than the options available in 2.5.7...

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Thanks for reminding me. I documented how this command works for my manual but even so I forgot about it so discoverability may be an issue.

Should Anchor Toward Spine be off by default since it's the reverse of 2.5 and can make a mess?

Should it also be added to Document Setup > Model to make it easier to find? I agree with @Hangman that once understood it's more powerful, but the problem is that you have to understand it first and it's located in a submenu of the panel menu.

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