10on12 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm exporting PDFs from AP and pulling into a Quark Xpress doc. All looks good in preview. However, when creating a further PDF for print/screen from Quark (300 dpi) all Affinity's PDFs are unusable. Even as a screen document it's not usable. Is there a way to set the PDF quality when exporting from AP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff TonyB Posted October 22, 2014 Staff Share Posted October 22, 2014 Can you post the PDF file output from Affinity and the PDF output from Quark. Affinity will output at the DPI of your document so if that's set at 300dpi then that is all you can do at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'll check DPI in AP and go through the process again and see what the results are like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Andy Somerfield Posted October 22, 2014 Staff Share Posted October 22, 2014 If they look right in Preview, then I'm confused.. AndyS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Not 'Preview' the app - Quark’s preview of the document. Leave it with me and I'll get back… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 OK. I've included the PDF exported from Affinity -> imported to Quark -> Exported from Quark with compression set to 'medium/low". Attached Affinity and Quark dialogue boxes. Also included is the preview in Quark showing some very odd colours. Another problem. I've Exported a JPEG at 300dpi from Affinity. Import the .jpg into Quark - the dialogue box lists the dpi as "1dpi" with what looks like negative dimensions?? Once imported the page is blank. See screen dump of Quark's import dialogue. Some odd things happening. Probably staring me in the face. Affinity pdf into Quark pdf.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff TonyB Posted October 23, 2014 Staff Share Posted October 23, 2014 I placed the PDF into InDesign and it looks fine. I can only guess that Quark can't cope with the PDF level we output from Designer at the moment. We are working on adding support for PDF X1-a and Quark might have a better time reading them. I didn't realise Quark was so bad at rendering PDF files, no wonder InDesign won the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 Not sure about that - never had a problem before. What's the PDF output from inDesign like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Quark is horrible — back in the day, I loved working with version 5, but InDesign is better in every way and Quark lost me completly with version 10 last year: never had ANY software that was released with so many bugs and installation issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Never had a problem with it to be honest - support never their strong point but it's not an Adobe product which is always a plus in my book. My guess is many of your potential customers might be still using Quark - don't you think this is an issue? So far the only format I can pull right through the PDF process in Quark is a PNG. Affinity is the only App (Fireworks/Freehand/Photoshop/AI) producing files that are producing problems like this. Tiff = 'bad file format" JPG = gives me a resolution of 1dpi and negative dimensions and no preview PDF = terrible preview file + unusable PDF output (see above) EPS = no preview file/just a load of lines + "Unable to create the PDF" I've no idea if any of these files would go through a proper print process but going by the results so far I'd be reluctant to use AD in anything but screen/web work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff TonyB Posted October 24, 2014 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2014 Does the TIFF work in Quark? It does in InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop. The only problem for me is that OSX Preview can't display a CMYK Tiff with interleaved data. Can you post or link the original afdesign file so I can have a look and try different settings. I can also see how it works in Quark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff TonyB Posted October 24, 2014 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2014 We have now fixed the CMYK Jpeg export issue. It will be in the beta later today. Keep sending the feedback. We will get there in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Tony - leave it with me. It was an old Freehand file exported as a PDF then brought into AD then reworked and exported to PDF. Perhaps there have been bugs introduced during that process? I'm guessing though. I'll test with some native AD designs before I get back to you. I realise Quark is a bit of ancient history at the minute BUT if people start to drift from Adobe's subscription model Quark might gain a bit of traction again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff TonyB Posted October 24, 2014 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2014 I think the best solution for Quark is going to be PDF X/1-a or X-3. We are working on it, we have done it before so we know what's involved but need to get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Just used some native AD PDF files. It went through Quark's PDF process and came out the other side looking OK(ish) but I did get the "Failed the PDF X/1" warning. I'll put a few more formats through the process and report back. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 OK. I've included the PDF exported from Affinity -> imported to Quark -> Exported from Quark with compression set to 'medium/low". Attached Affinity and Quark dialogue boxes. Also included is the preview in Quark showing some very odd colours. Another problem. I've Exported a JPEG at 300dpi from Affinity. Import the .jpg into Quark - the dialogue box lists the dpi as "1dpi" with what looks like negative dimensions?? Once imported the page is blank. See screen dump of Quark's import dialogue. Some odd things happening. Probably staring me in the face. I placed the PDF into InDesign and it looks fine. I can only guess that Quark can't cope with the PDF level we output from Designer at the moment. We are working on adding support for PDF X1-a and Quark might have a better time reading them. I didn't realise Quark was so bad at rendering PDF files, no wonder InDesign won the war. I would be interested in seeing the actual PDF from Infinity Designer, not the one back out from QXP. I suspect I can pass it along to an appropriate person at Q. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Just used some native AD PDF files. It went through Quark's PDF process and came out the other side looking OK(ish) but I did get the "Failed the PDF X/1" warning. I'll put a few more formats through the process and report back. Stephen BTW, I just took a closer look at the Q PDF. Unless there is an OS reason, you should update to the current version. It's a few past where you are at, and 10.5 is due out in a week or two. There have been several improvements to the PDF placing and output since your version. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yes - I know. I don't do an awful lot of print stuff anymore, but will upgrade and see what improvements there are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Quark upgrade produced no improvement. Won't create a PDF using a PNG now - that's more or less all avenues closed. Still can't understand why it would show a Jpeg as having 1 DPI and negative dimensions? Do you think it stems form using a PDF to create the initial AD document? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Seeing the PDF from Affinity would be most helpful. I doubt it matters the initial source of the Affinity file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10on12 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 I sent it to the @support email yesterday. I have had no issue in Quark with PDFs (Tiff/Jpeg/EPS etc) created natively in Affinity - only files that are created from a PDF. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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