[Windows 11] New Font not correctly displayed

[mopperle]

I installed a new fontset in Windows via Settings/System/optional features. Its name (in german) "Paneuropäische zusätzliche Schrifarten":

All of them are displyed correctly in Affinity, except the font "Neue Haas Grotesk". It shows 16 Types but in fact there are only 2 but each of them 8 times:

Windows itself and software like Word or others show it correct:

Anybody an idea what the problem could be? As the specific font is correct in other software, I assume it is an Affinity problem.

[walt.farrell]

19 minutes ago, mopperle said:

All of them are displyed correctly in Affinity, except the font "Neue Haas Grotesk". It shows 16 Types but in fact there are only 2 but each of them 8 times:

That is a Variable font, and that kind of font is not supported in the Affinity applications yet. The initial support will come in the 2.5.0 Beta, but is not yet present in the current beta build:

You can help test it, if you want, by joining the beta program if you're not already a member. More details att:

 

[mopperle]

Thanks Walt, maybe I'll try it when it is available in the beta.

[kenmcd]

9 hours ago, mopperle said:

Neue Haas Grotesk"

That family was changed in Windows 11 to be a variable font.

If you get the Pan-European Supplemental Font Pack from Windows 10,
the fonts are still separate static fonts - so they work in Affinity now.

[Alfred]

9 hours ago, kenmcd said:

That family was changed in Windows 11 to be a variable font.

If you get the Pan-European Supplemental Font Pack from Windows 10,
the fonts are still separate static fonts - so they work in Affinity now.

Is the Windows 10 version of the font pack available to Windows 11 users?

[mopperle]

Very good question. I couldnt find any reliable source.

The font family „Neue Haas Grotesk“ is very interesting, as it is the base of the famous „Helvetica“ which is not part of Windows.

[mopperle]

Finally I was able to finfd a link to the "old" Windows 10 Package on Microsofts forum:

http://answers.microsoft.com/message/fe1ef01f-24c7-456a-a70b-568758048f85?threadId=95839dfa-0df2-4bc0-875a-fd6b57e61fe4

Didnt installed it so far, but after a look at the content of the cab file, it looks as if there are not so many variations as with the Windows 11 package.

[kenmcd]

15 hours ago, Alfred said:

Is the Windows 10 version of the font pack available to Windows 11 users?

Lots of people have both Win10 and Win11.
And there those like me who back-up all the supplemental font packs.

[kenmcd]

13 hours ago, mopperle said:

Finally I was able to finfd a link to the "old" Windows 10 Package on Microsofts forum:

http://answers.microsoft.com/message/fe1ef01f-24c7-456a-a70b-568758048f85?threadId=95839dfa-0df2-4bc0-875a-fd6b57e61fe4

Didnt installed it so far, but after a look at the content of the cab file, it looks as if there are not so many variations as with the Windows 11 package.

That is the older v1.01 from 2015 - only had four fonts (RIBBI).
The two Medium were added in 2017 (v1.05).

What version of Office do you have? 
You should be able to get all the font styles from the variable font from the cloud fonts.
And the cloud fonts are all static.

Hmm... let me check the cloud fonts json file to see if they are in there.
If they are, then Office can be coaxed into downloading them.
Office 2019, 2021, and 365 should all work.
It should have the six styles at least, and maybe all 16 like the variable.
Lets check...  "I'll be back."

[kenmcd]

Nope.
The only fonts available from the cloud fonts are the basic RIBBI v1.05.
Not even the Medium.
And certainly not all of the 16 styles in the variable.

The cloud fonts are kind of a mess.
When I started doing a detailed inventory awhile back I found stuff missing, old fonts, misnamed fonts, etc., etc. Definitely a WIP.
The lack of the Medium for the old static version is probably an oversight.
But the lack of all the styles from the variable is likely a decision.

Probably not what you wanted to hear.
But variable font support is coming to your favorite Affinity app soon....