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Designer Persona in Publisher Shows Document Setup and Spread Setup


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The Designer Persona in Publisher shows both 'Document Setup...' and 'Spread Setup...' in the File Menu.

Both options display the 'Document Setup...' window when selected. 'Spread Setup...' was removed in v2 so it is redundant...

I also wonder whether 'Spread Properties' when right-clicking a page in the 'Pages Panel' should, in v2 show the full 'Document Setup' window rather than the 'Spread Properties' from v1 which is limited to Dimensions, Scaling and Margins...

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Hi @Hangman,

Good spot, I've logged this with the developers for correction.

I think 'Spread Properties' is it's own separate dialog and should remain as such when accessed from the pages panel. It gives specific config settings for amending the properties of the spread, whereas Document setup contains tabs relevant to the entire document scope such as colour space, model etc. that are not necessarily relevant to the selected spread(s) I've chosen to amend.

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Hi @NathanC,

Thanks for logging...

I was in two minds about the 'Spread Properties', it's the same as the V1 'Spread Properties' which is based on the original 'Spread Properties' when the two were split. It almost seems irrelevant because you can just as easily make the same changes via the Document Setup Window but it's no big deal. I have to say I don't ever use the 'Spread Properties' window but it's not doing any harm and maybe others find it useful.

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Spread Properties is accessible by right-clicking a page which makes sense. It was just supposed to have been removed from the menu - I hadn't noticed it being in the other persona because I'm not a persona user.

I asked about it at the time the change was made because I thought there was still value in it being in the menu. You can delete a selected page from the menu so why can't you edit its properties from the menu? But I see the wisdom in the decision now - editing page and master spread properties is an edge case and doesn't need to be so visible and hiding the command guides users to editing the document properties which will avoid errors. Those who really need to edit spread properties but don't know about the contextual command can still do so through document setup.

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Thinking further, having Spread Properties available via right-clicking the spread makes a lot of sense. It can potentially avoid errors by automatically restricting the available options which I think is basically what you're saying as well...

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A bit more info regarding Spread Setup in Publisher's Designer persona.

If you start Designer and look in the File menu before opening a document, you'll see Spread Setup, at least on macOS. If you create a document it will disappear.

But if you open a facing-pages document created in Publisher, the Spread Setup command will return to Designer's File menu. I assume the intention was that because the document has a spread there should be a Spread Setup command and the same is true for Publisher's Designer persona.

However, if you choose this Spread Setup command in Designer or in Publisher's Designer persona, the Document Setup window will be shown. There's no point to including this command if it's just going to show the same dialog.

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