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What are you trying to accomplish?

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I'm curious if there's some specific scenario that needs that. More details on where you're trying to place it, relative to the original text. 

Publisher doesn't provide many options in this area, but if we understand more about why you need this we might have some suggestions.

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So from your comments I'm assuming it's not possible without a workaround – just wanted to check if I'd missed a button somewhere…

Indesign treats the footnote text-field the same as any other field, which is why I was looking for a similar solution here.

Cheers.

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@monocultured

Like @walt.farrell I too would like to know what you are needing. Could you make a small simple document that shows how the footnotes actually appear and then have some fake footnotes in separate text frames placed where you need them to be. While there are limits as to what can be done with footnotes there are also several options available as well.

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You cannot move the footnote frames. You can format the notes however you like.

To Walt's point, can you share an example of what you can't figure out how to do in Publisher that you can do in ID? Perhaps we will know a trick you haven't encountered yet.

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Thanks for the replies y'all.

I'm noodling with my (to be printed) design portfolio, and wanted the flexibility of moving the footnote text-frame around to try out different solutions. No biggie, it just would have been more convenient to have a text-box rather than wrangling the notes-settings.

I'll get there by just copy-pasting the finished footnotes into a seperate text-box and move that around, but this brakes the note functionality which would have been nice to keep.

 

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30 minutes ago, monocultured said:

... moving the footnote text-frame around to try out different solutions. ...

Solutions to what sort of problem? Footnotes go at the bottom of a page, inside or outside of the text frame. Sidenotes are in the margins. Endnotes are at the end of a section/book/chapter. A variety of spaceing options are available, space between the main text and the footnotes, space between each footnote. Alignment options and justification options are available.

As this is for your design portfolio maybe footnotes should not be used. Perhaps a numbered list Paragraph Style would serve you best.

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1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

As this is for your design portfolio maybe footnotes should not be used. Perhaps a numbered list Paragraph Style would serve you best.

If this option is chosen, you could even reverse the logic of notes and insert in the main text a cross-reference to the number of the paragraph in note.PNG50-Capturedcran2024-03-2518_38_19.png.c2bc553a3eae9f7a132f9e58855dab99.png

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I have to say I was very much hoping the footnote/endnote feature would create and populate text frames which could be manipulated like standard textframes.

I can't speak for monocultured, but I have found it handy on a few occasions to "cheat" the location of a footnote frame to avoid unsightly interactions with floating or inline illustrations.

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The problem with allowing users to move footnote frames on their own is that the app will have to move the footnote frame when you edit the text in the main frame and a paragraph becomes one line longer or shorter.

Without seeing the design I can't offer other solutions, but in general if you want to move a footnote frame up or down you can cheat. Use leading override to add space above the footnote. Or use a blank line with leading set to exactly whatever you want to add space above or below the footnote. Your settings will be preserved if you later edit the main text and a paragraph becomes longer or shorter.

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