Slow on first launch returns

[eluengo]

I think is's not really a problem of the 3 AFF apps, but since the actualization to the last Sonoma version (14.3) in my M1 Mac, the ultraslow first launch that we used to have before M1 has returned: frequently more than 30 seconds after dock-click lasts to appear the AFF window. Its probably an OS problem, but it's annoying. It happens only on the first launch after computer (re)start, next launches are near instantaneous, as we used to.

[deepblue]

Hello,

I think this has nothing to do with the last update to Sonoma 14.3.

The slow start of the 3 apps (AF Designer, AF Photo, AF Publisher)
happened to me when I switched from AF Designer and AF Photo 1.10.8 to the
Universal 2 started. The same behavior as with "eluengo" is also the case for me.

The apps take 30 seconds or longer to start for the first time.

Once you have started the app once, opening it twice will be faster.

I've read about the apps starting slowly several times in the forum.
but unfortunately there is no solution for this yet.

[skhio]

Hi,

Same problem here, on Mac M1 Pro on latest Sonoma 14.3. No solution yet ?

Thank you

[Jonopen]

For info, same issue here.

In whole scheme of things it sounds ridiculous having to take 30 seconds out of your life, but somehow it does matter!

Thanks

[Jonopen]

Just a quick (30 second) update. I've just updated to macOS 14.3.1 and all is good again for me. 😁

[Aurea Ratio]

Isn't this initial delay some macOS "generating sandbox" security something something?

[skhio]

On 2/9/2024 at 9:17 AM, Jonopen said:

Just a quick (30 second) update. I've just updated to macOS 14.3.1 and all is good again for me. 😁

Same, it works great after the last update. 

[Aurea Ratio]

On 2/10/2024 at 10:23 PM, Aurea Ratio said:

Isn't this initial delay some macOS "generating sandbox" security something something?

Oh, I think the update to macOS 14.3.1 actually did fix this delay.

[Jonopen]

Spoke too soon - slow start up is back for me.

Start up is quicker if apps are left open when shutting down.

[deepblue]

Hello,

Unfortunately I haven't found a solution yet as to what could be the problem.
I use a Macmini with M1 processor 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD.
But for me it takes 30 seconds to start the apps again before the program opens.

But it seems I'm not the only one having this problem.

Is there perhaps an idea what this could be?

[Lemon Tree]

On 2/12/2024 at 10:03 AM, Aurea Ratio said:

Oh, I think the update to macOS 14.3.1 actually did fix this delay.

No, I noticed it on 14.3.1 (Intel) with Publisher.

And I was among the people who thought it was fixed for apps downloaded directly from the Serif Store rather than the Mac App Store, even though Serif themselves have said it is not. Unless you sit there with a stopwatch, it is hard to subjectively judge these things.

Briefly, this is said to be macOS scanning the app for viruses. For what it’s worth, Apple’s own Xcode, which is the largest app I have on my system, is also very slow to start up now. Apple have tightened this up in recent major versions I think, so it now scans on every first launch after boot (at least).

[skhio]

Confirming this issue also, it was fine for a couple of days then back to where it was.

[Bit Disappointed]

I'm experiencing it too. Serif's programs aren't the only ones with this slow initial startup, but I definitely think they are by far the worst and slowest. By a large margin.

Could it be these gigantic 3GB universal files that Serif still delivers in, causing the waiting time? It could make some sense if we're waiting for macOS to establish a sandbox at startup.

[Antony_PG]

Every since I installed the Affinity products I have had to suffer with slow first launch times, sometimes around 30 seconds. This is on my older Intel MacBook, my iMac and my newer M1 MacBook. I tried a few suggestions in this forum but I never found a fix.

However, now to my total surprise the apps launch almost instantly, first time. Even first time straight after a reboot.

The only change is that I am running the Beta version of MacOS Sequoia!!

[deepblue]

It would of course be a dream if things ran better with the new operating system. The start times for the Affinity apps are around 20 seconds for me. I use the MacMini M1 with 16 GB RAM and 512 SSD under the current version of macOS Sonoma 14.

How well is the beta version of MacOS Sequoia running for you overall?
Does it run faster than Sonoma?

[Antony_PG]

MacOS Sequoia (Beta 2) is running perfectly on my MacBook M1 Pro (base model, 16GB). With the added advantage of the Affinity applications launching super fast 😀

This has proved to me that the really slow launch times must have been caused by something specific to MacOS. I upgraded my MacBook from Sonoma to Sequoia, not a fresh install, so it appears it was something that Sonoma was doing to slow things down.