Leading in Publisher 2

[VJS]

I can't get the leading to change within a paragraph!

It's driving me nuts. I change it, in the example from 12pt to 10pt in the blue paragraph, and no change. In the detailed description, I see an override 13pt, but I can't change it. In InDesign, which I can't use anymore (changed OS), you could change it by tenths and see a preview. Here, nothing changes at all, and no preview!

[walt.farrell]

Check your Baseline Grid settings, which can be set for the Document, for a Text Frame, for a Paragraph Text Style, or for a Paragraph.

[VJS]

Still struggling to try to obtain consistency. In the example below, all paragraphs in this entire section of text have the same paragraph style applied & pages so far are complying. Then I get to the last 2.5 pages, and BOOM, drastically different leading. Fraying my nerves! Even moving the text frames around (not resizing) on the page has different lines showing.

 

[walt.farrell]

8 minutes ago, VJS said:

Even moving the text frames around (not resizing) on the page has different lines showing.

Still sounds like a Baseline Grid issue. Compare the Text Frame panel settings for the two Text Frames. 

 

[Old Bruce]

32 minutes ago, VJS said:

In the example below, all paragraphs in this entire section of text have the same paragraph style applied & pages so far are complying. Then I get to the last 2.5 pages, and BOOM, drastically different leading. Fraying my nerves!

You have most likely overridden a leading setting or the Align to Baseline for the "Contemporary Architects ... " paragraph. Place the text caret in that paragraph and look at the Text Styles panel. Is there a + sign after the name in the top?

See how the + is not there for the first paragraph but is there for the second paragraph.

 

[VJS]

I finally found, and now show the text frame panel, but all Baseline Grid choices are grayed out. These are all linked text frames that, I'm assuming, were created at the same time because I certainly didn't specify anything. They all say "Relative to: Top inset". When I create a new one, it says the same, but if I click on "Use independent baseline grid, then I have 6 choices. I'm assuming this "Default (top inset)" is automatically used when creating. Is there any way to change them all and also, for later documents, set another default?

Also, after sending the last response, I tried clicking another paragraph style. It changed as expected. When I clicked back on the one I wanted—BOOM—it set that paragraph's leading correctly.

Am I finding bugs in the software, because this just doesn't seem normal.

[VJS]

Old Bruce. Good idea, but I checked that and saw nothing. I had seen it at various times over the last few days and corrected it. I was used to seeing that during my many years using InDesign.

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, VJS said:

I finally found, and now show the text frame panel, but all Baseline Grid choices are grayed out

Did you have the Text Frame selected when you were looking at those settings?

[VJS]

I knew I'd hear from you, Walt. Thanks, I'll do that. It's been driving me nuts because it works the way it should on my laptop, but not on my desktop. I can go up 6–7 pt sizes before I see any change, yet on my laptop, every pt. changes it—as it should. I must have clicked something somewhere I shouldn't have.

 

[VJS]

Yes, Walt, I did and text within the frame at times. Sorry for the delay as I switched to working with the resource manager and dealing with all the images in the document. I had to do something that worked the way it was supposed to.

 

[walt.farrell]

Can you share a document (.afpub) that has the problem? We don't need a complete document, just a page with the issue, so you could make a copy of your document and delete most of the pages from the copy.

[VJS]

Walt, you're a saint! The current document is 412 pages long with many photos. What I've been having trouble with is the Introduction which is spread over 9 pages (not all text). There is a second section of text that covers multiple pages. I I have issues there, I'll send something. I'll try copying those pages only and delete the photos. Never tried that before.

[VJS]

I hope this helps. This includes the first section that I've been discussing.

2023-12-10 Courts_short for Walt.afpub

[walt.farrell]

Sorry for the delay, and thanks for the sample.

If you're talking about the bulleted list on page 25, you have the Baseline Grid enabled for the document and for the Text Style named List.

And you have not disabled Baseline Grid processing in any of the other places you could disable it.

Therefore, the spacing for that list will always be a multiple of 12 pts.

Assuming you're still having a problem, does that explain it?

[VJS]

Walt, you're a saint! The current document is 412 pages long with many photos. What I've been having trouble with is the Introduction which is spread over 9 pages (not all text). There is a second section of text that covers multiple pages. I I have issues there, I'll send something. I'll try copying those pages only and delete the photos. Never tried that before.

[VJS]

Walt,

That one page—list—is the only place I did want it. The others, with your help, I was able to fix, although it didn't happen in other areas of the book where there was at least one page of text. The book was sent off to the printer yesterday.

[walt.farrell]

Congratulations!