APub: Outline not supposed to be there

[GeirSol]

When displaying my exported pdf/x-4 in Foxit pdf Reader, I see an outline of text-boxes and images that are not supposed to be there.
This is from pdf passthrough. How do I make sure these things doesn't go to print. Source pdf from Sibelius.

It does not show in Sibelius or in Publisher.

[NathanC]

Hi @GeirSol,

Could you also provide us with the PDF document exported from Publisher, along with the original .afpub document? If you don't wish to share them publicly I've included a private upload link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/request/Z73XWbRk4vfQXywmM8Rf

Many thanks

[GeirSol]

2 hours ago, NathanC said:

Hi @GeirSol,

Could you also provide us with the PDF document exported from Publisher, along with the original .afpub document? If you don't wish to share them publicly I've included a private upload link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/request/Z73XWbRk4vfQXywmM8Rf

Many thanks

Uploaded. Please look at page 85 and 89

[NathanC]

Thanks for the files @GeirSol,

If you take a look at the 'S03 20 Adiranes vei...' PDF file which is used as a placed passthrough resource on Page 89, the text passage on page 1 has a white rectangle object layered behind it, so it's essentially a white rectangle layered on top of the default white PDF background which is likely being highlighted in the PDF reader. In Acrobat, if I set the page display to a transparency grid this immediately becomes evident that it's there (see below screenshot from Acrobat).

It's a Similar case with Page 85, although the white rectangle here is actually an sRGB image instead of a curve object, this is on the 'S03 18 Jordens...' PDF file, page 5.

Just to be on the safe side, I would suggest editing/re-exporting the existing PDF files with the rectangle and image removed to avoid any issues them becoming visible on a printed version of the doc.

[GeirSol]

Thanks for looking at it!

18 hours ago, NathanC said:

Thanks for the files @GeirSol,If you take a look at the 'S03 20 Adiranes vei...' PDF file which is used as a placed passthrough resource on Page 89, the text passage on page 1 has a white rectangle object layered behind it, so it's essentially a white rectangle layered on top of the default white PDF background which is likely being highlighted in the PDF reader. In Acrobat, if I set the page display to a transparency grid this immediately becomes evident that it's there (see below screenshot from Acrobat).

 

'03 20 Adiranes vei : Yes, the white fill is not needed in the source-file here. I'll take it away.

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It's a Similar case with Page 85, although the white rectangle here is actually an sRGB image instead of a curve object, this is on the 'S03 18 Jordens...' PDF file, page 5.

Just to be on the safe side, I would suggest editing/re-exporting the existing PDF files with the rectangle and image removed to avoid any issues them becoming visible on a printed version of the doc.

Mm, there's a reason for the white image. It creates white space for the hairpin.
I see other instances of white frames that is not causing trouble (wandering why).
Trying with an CMYK-image. No change.

Ok, I'll remove it. Better so

Note: I can't edit the source-files in Publisher due to interpretation-errors.

[thomaso]

On 10/25/2023 at 10:07 AM, GeirSol said:

How do I make sure these things doesn't go to print.

Does your question mean that they do appear on a print?

21 hours ago, NathanC said:

Just to be on the safe side, I would suggest editing/re-exporting the existing PDF files with the rectangle and image removed to avoid any issues them becoming visible on a printed version of the doc.

Do you know why a white object on a transparent page would create a visible gray stroke in this exported PDF / in the viewing app? Is this an export issue of Affinity – or a display / rendering issue of the used PDF viewer app that possibly would not appear on a print? In case of the latter, is it indeed necessary to change the layout?

[GeirSol]

2 hours ago, thomaso said:

Does your question mean that they do appear on a print?

Do you know why a white object on a transparent page would create a visible gray stroke in this exported PDF / in the viewing app? Is this an export issue of Affinity – or a display / rendering issue of the used PDF viewer app that possibly would not appear on a print? In case of the latter, is it indeed necessary to change the layout?

I'm checking my files before print.
Sending to pro-print, and didn't plan for a prerun.

Seems like an export-issue in Publisher, as it's not visible in the source-files.

[thomaso]

9 minutes ago, GeirSol said:

Seems like an export-issue in Publisher, as it's not visible in the source-files.

Alternatively / also it could be an issue of the PDF viewing app. – Does your PDF show gray strokes if you view it in a browser window?

Do you see gray strokes in the attached PDF exported from APub V1? It contains several objects with white fill, set as RGB and CMYK in a CMYK document. To me no gray edge gets displayed in various viewers. – How about your "Foxit PDF Reader"?

v1105 white.pdf

[GeirSol]

On 10/27/2023 at 3:08 PM, thomaso said:

Alternatively / also it could be an issue of the PDF viewing app. – Does your PDF show gray strokes if you view it in a browser window?

It showed up in Acrobate Reader to.
I've fixed the 2 issues by removing them in source-file.