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I am not able to synchronize the stiles from one chapter to the others. I believe I am doing the right things, but it simply it does nothing. The style source is set, and the settings are set correctly (see attachment).

The only way I found is importing the source chapter into the destination and overwrite styles, but it is cumbersome.

Can someone help me please?

Thanks

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10 minutes ago, Gianni Becattini said:

May it be?

It is very likely that they both need to be Open, yes.

-- Walt
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32 minutes ago, Gianni Becattini said:

And I believe that you must always say also "master pages"

Only if you want them synchronized. If all you need to synchronize at some particular time is Text Styles, there's no need to specify Master Pages.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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7 hours ago, Gianni Becattini said:

Id does it again, i.e. does nothing; remains on the same screen and don't pass to ask which styles you want to replace.

If you're still talking about the Synchronize function, it does not give you a choice when synchronizing the Text Styles. 

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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On 9/21/2023 at 12:42 PM, walt.farrell said:

It is very likely that they both need to be Open, yes.

Help doesn't state that chapters must be open for syncing to work you're right, it doesn't work if they're not open. I think it would make sense to require the chapters to be open for syncing because the results aren't always what you want and if they're open you have the opportunity to discard changes before trying again with different settings. Perhaps Serif could clarify how it should work.

@Gianni Becattini, you've found another bug. You should be able to sync any one of the four options independently but I tested it and I cannot get text styles to sync on their own. If I select:

  • Text Styles only or Text Styles + Swatches: text styles sync
  • Text Styles + Table Formats or Text Styles + Master Pages: text styles sync
  • Swatches + Table Formats: text styles sync!! this makes no sense. I decided not to test all of the combinations because I'm sure this can be figured out, it's probably just reading the checkboxes in the wrong order. I'll log this in the bugs forum.

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I tried and tried and I am confused... it seems sometime to work without problems, other times no hope. 

Which is the difference between "Synchronise" and "Synchronise setting"? With the first it seems to work more often.

Sorry to be so generic, thanks

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2 minutes ago, Gianni Becattini said:

Which is the difference between "Synchronise" and "Synchronise setting"? With the first it seems to work more often.

Synchronize just performs the synchronization immediately, without opening the dialog. Synchronize Setting... opens the dialog so you can change your synchonization choices, and lets you then perform the synchronization (or not).

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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22 hours ago, MikeTO said:

Help doesn't state that chapters must be open for syncing to work you're right, it doesn't work if they're not open

I just tried this while replicating the issue raised here with the Chapters closed and syncing worked for me.  If you've got a couple of files that will only Sync when they aren't open, please attach them.  Also when I say syncing worked on the closed chapters, I did have to select Swatches + Table Formats (bug logged) from the Sync settings but it did work for text styles on closed Chapters :) 

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1 hour ago, stokerg said:

I just tried this while replicating the issue raised here with the Chapters closed and syncing worked for me.  If you've got a couple of files that will only Sync when they aren't open, please attach them.  Also when I say syncing worked on the closed chapters, I did have to select Swatches + Table Formats (bug logged) from the Sync settings but it did work for text styles on closed Chapters :) 

Sorry, that was user error. I tested the closed chapter syncing before I realized that selecting text styles only didn't sync text styles.

I tried it again with closed chapters and taking into account the sync settings radio button issue, it worked as expected. Sorry for the confusion.

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