RAW+jpeg issue

[Draloscona]

Hi, 

I can't open correctly photos takes in "RAW+jpeg" (took with a Nikon camera for this example). 

The problem is Affinity Photo V2 for ipad load a poor image of about 200x100 pixels instead of the 6000x4000 for this example.

Any comments on this ?

Thank you, i love your softwares and I'm using it since the betas ! 

NiL

[Hangman]

Hi @Draloscona,

Welcome to the forums...

Could you upload a sample image where you are seeing the problem so we can take a look...

[Draloscona]

Here some screenshots and a file for test

[Hangman]

@Draloscona, thank you for the screengrabs and the file, two questions...

1. Have you tried opening the RAW file in Photo rather than the JPEG and if so, are you seeing the same issue?
2. Is the sample JPEG you included straight out of camera or have you resized it prior to uploading it?

[MEB]

Hi @Draloscona,
Welcome to Affinity Forums
Seems Affinity is opening the RAW thumbnail rather than the photo itself. How are you opening the image in Affinity Photo?

[Draloscona]

Thanks for your time,

1. The jpeg and the raw is actually the same file, not 2 separate files.

2. I don't resized, but I don't know if the upload in the forum keep it straight.

 

Also when I import the same file in Lightroom for ipad or Vectornator (another ipad app), the file is opening very well and I can exploit the raw format.

 

[Draloscona]

1 minute ago, MEB said:

Hi @Draloscona,
Welcome to Affinity Forums
Seems Affinity is opening the RAW thumbnail rather than the photo itself. How are you opening the image in Affinity Photo?

I tried all the possible ways to open/import

[Hangman]

5 minutes ago, Draloscona said:

1. The jpeg and the raw is actually the same file, not 2 separate files.

2. I don't resized, but I don't know if the upload in the forum keep it straight.

I'm not entirely sure whether or not the forum compresses files, I don't believe it does but could you perhaps ZIP the source file and upload it... The file you uploaded previously is a 1,000 px x 1,500 px, 96 dpi JPEG image, hence my original question.

A Zipped version of the file will ensure no compression etc., if that is indeed happening.

[MEB]

Hi @Draloscona,
Do you mind attaching the RAW file please? I can provide an upload link if you wish to keep the file private - just let me know. I'm not having issues on my end opening JPG + RAW files.
Thanks.

[MEB]

4 minutes ago, Hangman said:

I'm not entirely sure whether or not the forum compresses files, I don't believe it does but could you perhaps ZIP the source file and upload it... The file you uploaded previously is a 1,000 px x 1,500 px, 96 dpi JPEG image, hence my original question.

A Zipped version of the file will ensure no compression etc., if that is indeed happening.

The attached JPG has 4000x6000px. After clicking once to display it, click on it again to load the full size version.

[Hangman]

Hi @MEB,

I must be missing something here... this is what I see in the Finder...

and when I open the file itself...

 

I'm not sure I follow the after clicking once to display it, click on it again to load the full size version, at what point are you doing that?

[Draloscona]

2 hours ago, MEB said:

The attached JPG has 4000x6000px. After clicking once to display it, click on it again to load the full size version.

This is actually the same file, here on my drive : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X3bat9VHuFq0vPmGuk3OfvIEJYCRc7pm/view?usp=drivesdk

 

Edit : Not working

Edited February 6, 2023 by Draloscona

[Hangman]

1 minute ago, Draloscona said:

This is actually the same file, here on my drive 

That one opens for me at 4,000 px x 6,000 px and 300 dpi.

[Draloscona]

9 minutes ago, MEB said:

The attached JPG has 4000x6000px. After clicking once to display it, click on it again to load the full size version.

Can you see that the attached jpeg is a jpeg+raw ?

[Draloscona]

1 hour ago, Draloscona said:

Can you see that the attached jpeg is a jpeg+raw ?

Actually, I tried and the attached file isn't jpeg+raw anymore. So we have to try with the file on my drive

 

Edit: it's not working cause during the upload to the drive , the file lost the raw part, I don't know why..

Edited February 6, 2023 by Draloscona

[Hangman]

I'm only seeing both files as JPEG files only... the one from your drive is the correct size, 4000 px x 6000 px but like you say, I'm not seeing any RAW element to the file regardless of how I open it...

[Draloscona]

1 hour ago, Hangman said:

I'm only seeing both files as JPEG files only... the one from your drive is the correct size, 4000 px x 6000 px but like you say, I'm not seeing any RAW wlwmwnt ot the file regardless of how I open it...

You're right, when I export my picture from the apple photo app, it'snt a jpeg+raw anymore... 

When I want to import my pictures from my camera to a computer i can see the raw files and jpeg as 2 separate files. 

But when I import from the camera to the ipad with the apple photo app, the files are in jpeg+raw as I showed in a previous image.

Maybe there is another way to import from camera to ipad ?

But it is still strange because I can open these files in Lightroom for ipad and edit it in raw.

 

Edited February 6, 2023 by Draloscona
Spelling issue

[Hangman]

10 minutes ago, Draloscona said:

When I want to import my pictures from my camera to a computer i can see the raw files and jpeg as 2 separate files. 

Exactly, they are recorded as two separate files on camera (according to the manual at least) so you should have both a .NEF and a .JPG file, as @MEB suggested, it looks as though you've somehow managed to open the JPEG preview of the .NEF file...

Normally, when you have a RAW file, Apple Photos shows a RAW label in the top left of the Photo, I'm not seeing that on either file you've uploaded so far... do you have any .NEF files on your camera?

Out of interest which version of iOS are you running on your iPad, RAW support on iOS only came in with iOS 14.

[Draloscona]

I have all the .Nef files on my camera and I can see them on the computer but in the ipad there is only jpeg+raw : 

[Draloscona]

I think I have the same problem as this topic :  

I tried to edit one of the .Nef of my camera and it work so for now I have to import first my pictures into my computer then import only the raw files into the ipad to edit in affinity ipad. 

It will be great without the computer

Edited February 6, 2023 by Draloscona

[Draloscona]

All the pictures I imported are labeled jpeg+raw in the apple photo app like that :

But when I export one of them to Google drive it lost the raw part ...

[Hangman]

Um, I'd not seen that thread before, I'm now slightly confused as to whether this is a regression in V2 on iPad as the suggestion from @Chris B in the linked thread is that the issue was fixed in V1.10.X so I'm hoping either @Chris B or @MEB can clarify?

[MEB]

2 hours ago, Hangman said:

Hi @MEB,

I must be missing something here... this is what I see in the Finder...

and when I open the file itself...

 

I'm not sure I follow the after clicking once to display it, click on it again to load the full size version, at what point are you doing that?

Sorry the delay getting back to you. All this is done in the browser. Rather than saving the image directly (the last one in the third post) to your drive, select "Save linked file to" or similar command to download the full size image that's linked to that reduced version (which as you noticed only has 1000x1500px). Alternatively click over that fourth image in the browser to load the full size version then click over it again to zoom it to 100% and save it using the regular save as command (the process may differ a bit depending on the browser you are using). The full size image in the forum has 4000x6000px but was recompressed thus do not have the same quality as the original SOC JPG.
 

Here's a small video:

 

[MEB]

Hi @Draloscona,
I'm checking a few NEF files from that old report/thread. It's possible the issue wasn't fixed or there was a regression and it's failing again.

[Hangman]

38 minutes ago, MEB said:

The full size image in the forum has 4000x6000px but was recompressed thus do not have the same quality as the original SOC JPG.

Thanks @MEB, I hadn't realised images were being compressed via the forum, though it makes perfect sense... one observation though, comparing downloading the image via the browser vs the image @Draloscona linked to via Google Drive in the 12th post, while downloading from both sources results in a 4,000px x 6,000px JPEG file the browser download is 96dpi and only 804k whereas, the Google Drive linked version of the same file is 300 dpi and 5.1Mb...

Is that what you'd expect to see?