3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 I add an exposure adjustment layer to a pixel layer: I then copy a black and white image, and now want to paste it onto the adjustment layer to control which pixels are affected. The intuitive way would be to alt click the adjustment layer and then choose the paste, or paste into option. Unsurprisingly, neither work (because this is without doubt the most unintuitive software ever devised ) Any clues? Quote
Lisbon Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, 3d illusions said: I then copy a black and white image, and now want to paste it onto the adjustment layer to control which pixels are affected. Dont try to copy/paste. Try this instead. Load the luminosity of your Pixel layer as a selection and, after that, add the Exposure adjustment. To load the luminosity as a selection press Ctrl+Alt+Mouse_Click on your Pixel layer thumbnail (Layers tab). Quote
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 Thanks, I gave up though and just did it in Blender's compositor. Free and the node based workflow is much more intuitive 👍 Quote
Lisbon Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 49 minutes ago, 3d illusions said: Thanks, I gave up though and just did it in Blender's compositor. Free and the node based workflow is much more intuitive 👍 I see you've already solved your problem but if you want to give A.Photo a second chance there is another way to do what you asked. Maybe more intuitive. Rasterize to mask your B&W image (Layer > Rasterize to mask OR Right click and Rasterize to mask) Drag/Drop your mask over the Exposure adjustment. Hope this helps. Quote
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 Thanks for your answer. What a terrible software though. Not being able to utilise the adjustment layer's built in mask simply by pasting into it after alt clicking to edit it, is yet another example of why this software sucks. I'm sick of the most obvious method of achieving things, never being the actual way to do it. Thanks anyway 👍 p.s the alternative method didn't work, it just sent the image transparent after dragging the new mask onto the exposure adjustment: Quote
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 I also find it very confusing that there's no inset to indicate which layer masks and further adjustments are affecting. For example, it's this background mask was dragged onto the exposure layer: Just wondering why this isn't visually represented like this. Mask affects the exposure layer, levels affect the mask only: Quote
Lisbon Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, 3d illusions said: Thanks for your answer. What a terrible software though. Yeah i know that feeling. Especially when I use a software that is very different from what I am used to. I felt the same when I tried to use GIMP. How do they manage to work without adjustment layers? I promised myself that when they had adjustment layers I would learn to work in GIMP. Meanwhile, a decade has passed and no adjustment layers. Curiously, I didn't feel any great difficulties with A.Photo because I found it to be very similar to Photoshop. The first method i gave you i learned in Photoshop. If i'm not mistaken even the shortcut keys are the same. 1 hour ago, 3d illusions said: p.s the alternative method didn't work, it just sent the image transparent after dragging the new mask onto the exposure adjustment: Your mask is not afecting just the exposure. Just drag it into the right place. Notice that the Exposure Adjustment gets that ">" sign. Quote
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 What's the right place? I'm dragging it here so that the small blue rectangle is over the right hand edge of the exposure thumbnail. I tried dropping it directly on it but that didn't move it anywhere. Quote
NotMyFault Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 you need to drop the mask layer to the thumbnail of the adjustment layer - not the area with the name. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: you need to drop the mask layer to the thumbnail of the adjustment layer - not the area with the name. That's what I'm doing. You can see where my mouse pointer is in the image above (the small blue rectangle, not the large blue filled one) Quote
Lisbon Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: you need to drop the mask layer to the thumbnail of the adjustment layer - not the area with the name. I think he is using A. Photo version 1. 14 minutes ago, 3d illusions said: What's the right place? I'm dragging it here so that the small blue rectangle is over the right hand edge of the exposure thumbnail. Thats it @3d illusions! Your screenshot shows the correct position to drag the mask. Drag to the right of the Exposure thumbnail and you will get a little blue vertical rectangle. Thats the masking position. Quote
NotMyFault Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Ah in V1 you must use a trick. Affinity does not show nested layers in masking position below Level 2. So first, unnest the exposure adjustment. next, nest the mask layer to masking position of exposure adjustment finally, nest exposure adjustment to child position of background pixel layer. The mask becomes invisible, but is still active. V2 solved this inconvenience. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 oh ok, it's a bug. I'm guessing they won't be fixing bugs in v1 anymore. Well I'm definitely not upgrading to v2 after the 1 year experience from hell it's proven to be so far. Thanks for all your help 👍 Quote
walt.farrell Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, 3d illusions said: oh ok, it's a bug. I don't think so. I think it's just an area that could be improved (as they did in V2). Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Lisbon Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, 3d illusions said: oh ok, it's a bug. To be honest, I don't really know what you're refering but Its working fine here (A.Photo v1). Hope this helps. Quote
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 Here's another bug with this portion of the program: Add an adjustment layer to a mask: move the mask onto the exposure and the curves are no longer accessible: move the mask back to the top level and they're once again accessible! Quote
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 Do they fix bugs still in version 1, or is it expected to buy the product again to get something not bug riddled? Quote
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 Oh, I see they are still releasing updates for it. I'll try updating now, hopefully it'll resolve. Quote
NotMyFault Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 The only promise was to fix issues related to OS patches breaking V1 apps, for a undefined period of time. There will stop supporting V1 finally - not yet decided when exactly. Cant find the original thread, from memory. 3d illusions 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
3d illusions Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 Nope, still doesn't work. I'll give up for everything except painting. Davinci resolve and Blender for anything grading or image rebuilding related, and both free. Quote
3d illusions Posted January 24, 2023 Author Posted January 24, 2023 Just out of interest, has the second bug I mentioned here been addressed in version 2? Quote
lepr Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, 3d illusions said: Just out of interest, has the second bug I mentioned here been addressed in version 2? The problem you refer to no longer exists in v2: now the user can freely nest and access objects within mask-nested objects to an arbitrary depth. However, there are bugs in the rendering of nested objects, which may or may not affect your particular work. Quote
joshyy1312 Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 You still can't alt-click the mask and simply paste though... Quote
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