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Please add the Refine tool (Details refinement, currently only available in Develop or Tone Map Persona) as a filter / live filter to Photo Persona.

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Edited by NotMyFault
made more clear its "Details refinement", not selection refinement

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Or you could use the Refine Selection in the context toolbar. See here, for example.

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48 minutes ago, John Rostron said:

Or you could use the Refine Selection in the context toolbar. See here, for example.

John

Hi John, I'm talking about "Details Refinement", not selection refinement - I hoped this would be clear in the context of the personas i mentioned.

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2 hours ago, NotMyFault said:

Please add the Refine tool (Details refinement, currently only available in Develop or Tone Map Persona) as a filter / live filter to Photo Persona.

Isn't Detail Refinement practically the same effect as a "Live Unsharp Mask" sharpening layer?

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1 hour ago, carl123 said:

Isn't Detail Refinement practically the same effect as a "Live Unsharp Mask" sharpening layer?

Maybe. There is no clear definition avauilable in the help which method is used for sharpening.Unsharp mask normally has a threashold input paramter which is missing here.

I tried with a test photo to achhieve the same sharpening effect as "Refine Detilas 50% / 50%" with help of unsharp mask, running through all possible combinations of Radius and Factor between 0 to 5, and 0 to 4, in steps of 0.1, comparing both versions with blend mode "difference" at 100%. You never get the same result. Existing edges always get a brighter halo on the left side.

I might be expecting too much from Affinity. Other RAW developers are capable to apply special "digital optimizations" for RAW files based on sensors (RAW files!) and lenses used.

If "Details Refinement" is really only unsharp mask, then this request can be closed without changing the function, but please update the description in the UI and help section to explain what type of sharpening is used. But based on my experiments i doubt that it is the same function.

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