RainerH Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Hallo zusammen, the TOC-function of Publisher is the greates shit ever. After creating a TOC and setting up the textstyles for it, it looks great. After updating the TOC you have the same textstyle-settings as before you adjustet them: wrog spaces after the paragraph, wrong spacec on left an right hand side of the text. And you aren't able to adjust the spaces between paragraphs. One time you can adjust it one time you can't. Why are the TOC-textstyles only visible when the TOC is choosen? So I must adjust the register of the images and the register of the tables twice allthough teh should look the same. Why couldn't the textstyles of the TOC be listet in the normal list of textstyles like in Adobe Indesign. Why to reinvent the wheel and make it new from a sqauare instead of using the round one that exists? Rainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, RainerH said: After updating the TOC you have the same textstyle-settings as before you adjustet them: wrog spaces after the paragraph, wrong spacec on left an right hand side of the text. And you aren't able to adjust the spaces between paragraphs. One time you can adjust it one time you can't. Can you provide more details? Perhaps some screenshots and (if possible) a sample .afpub document to demonstrate the problem? 3 hours ago, RainerH said: So I must adjust the register of the images and the register of the tables twice allthough teh should look the same. I don't think I've ever seen a TOC with images or tables in it, so I would definitely like to see examples of what you're doing. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Hello Walt, thank you for your answer. I wrote that wrong (my english ist not so good). I have not Pictures or Tables in the Table of contents. I meant the table of contents of the pictures ans tables in my document. But read later. Unfortunately, I am unable to post the document because it is a scientific paper with confidential content. Now I'm ready with Now I've finished it - with a few workarounds - and it looks pretty good. But this afternoon I was really annoyed. Overall, I come to the conclusion that publisher has not quite gotten to Indesign yet, but not much is missing. Tables of contents in particular are terrible. I had three tables of contents: 1. The main table of contents (1. / 2. / 2.1 / 2.2 / 2.2.1 / 2.2.1.1 etc.) with four levels of text styles 2. The list of figures, which was created as numbered text styles (Pic. 1 .... / Pic. 2 .... / Pic. 3 .... / etc.) and whose table of contents formed the list of figures. 3. The list of tables was also created as numbered text styles (Tab. 1 ... / Tab. 2 ... / Tab. 3 ... / etc.) and its table of contents formed the list of tables. After every update of the table of contents, the previously laboriously formatted text styles were completely mixed up again. In addition, with the same settings for two text styles it is not possible to get the same visual result. The spaces before and after the paragraph seem to be arbitrary. I think I'll have to experiment a little more with a dummy document. What is definitely nonsense is that you have to click in the table of contents in order to edit your text style. That means you always have to remember to have the cursor on the type of entry whose text style you want to edit. So it isn'T possible to create TOC-Textstyles for a template that you can use for several documents. As long as there is no table of contents, no text style can be created for it. And it looks like no text style from the document can be used for a table of contents entry. But let me try it first, I might just use it wrongly. Old Bruce and walt.farrell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 17 hours ago, RainerH said: What is definitely nonsense is that you have to click in the table of contents in order to edit your text style. That means you always have to remember to have the cursor on the type of entry whose text style you want to edit. So it isn'T possible to create TOC-Textstyles for a template that you can use for several documents. As long as there is no table of contents, no text style can be created for it. And it looks like no text style from the document can be used for a table of contents entry. But let me try it first, I might just use it wrongly. I would like to know if you can solve this problem. It drives me right up the wall. The method of changing ToC text styles is Byzantine. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 Hello Old Bruce, you're right, tables of contents aren't that great yet. The Affinitists should really take a look at Indesign. They make really good software at Serif, but sometimes you wonder what they thought of one or the other feature. But I'm sure they'll manage that. We’re excited to see what’s coming. Happy new year Rainer Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 Hello, the TOC-function is the most complicated and flawed software function I've seen in my life. Take a look to the attached file. A disaster. Rainer Testdokument.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 If you change the text style of a level of table of contents entries, sometimes only the appearance of the entry in which the cursor is located changes. Most of the time, however, nothing changes. Then you have to format all table of contents entries formatted with this text style with a different text style and then again with the actually desired one, so that the new settings are applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 after setting up the TOC and it looks pretty good and then actualizing it the whole settings are damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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