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Hello,

I wanted to stitch photos together but then I noticed that the result was much darker and the highlights have been clipped. I was wondering if there are adjustments to disable the behaviour of automatically tweaking the photo. Because I very much like total control over these settings.

I linked the Pano and on of the source images.

Is that normal? Can I change that, or do I have to accept this flaw?

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Posted

Are you using raw files? They will have no processing added before being added to the Panorama procedure so they may be 'flat' or 'dark'. I get much better results with using 16 bit TIFFs

Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 
Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear.

I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

Posted
1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

Are you using raw files? They will have no processing added before being added to the Panorama procedure so they may be 'flat' or 'dark'. I get much better results with using 16 bit TIFFs

I'm exclusively shooting Raw. Have been for years. And I'm pretty sure this issue is new, because I never noticed this behaviour before. I've stitched some panoramas in the past with no problems.

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33 minutes ago, finn.thor said:

I'm exclusively shooting Raw. Have been for years. And I'm pretty sure this issue is new, because I never noticed this behaviour before. I've stitched some panoramas in the past with no problems.

Only File > Open and File > New Batch Job have full support for developing Raw files. (And only Open had it before 1.8.)

Any other usage in Photo, and any usage on Designer or Publisher, does not have full support for them.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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59 minutes ago, finn.thor said:

I'm exclusively shooting Raw. Have been for years. And I'm pretty sure this issue is new, because I never noticed this behaviour before. I've stitched some panoramas in the past with no problems.

Have a look and see what is set in the Develop Assistant. View > Assistant Manager  and then click on the Develop Assistant. (going from memory here) See if there is a tone curve applied and what is set for exposure.

Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 
Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear.

I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

Posted
1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

Have a look and see what is set in the Develop Assistant. View > Assistant Manager  and then click on the Develop Assistant. (going from memory here) See if there is a tone curve applied and what is set for exposure.

My understanding is that the Develop Assistant settings are not used except in Photo and then only during File > Open and File > New Batch Job.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5

Posted
2 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

Have a look and see what is set in the Develop Assistant. View > Assistant Manager  and then click on the Develop Assistant. (going from memory here) See if there is a tone curve applied and what is set for exposure.

I disabled all actions and it did nothing that would have helped. But thanks for the guess!

 

2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Only File > Open and File > New Batch Job have full support for developing Raw files. (And only Open had it before 1.8.)

Any other usage in Photo, and any usage on Designer or Publisher, does not have full support for them.

I'm afraid I don't understand exactly what you mean. I am working with Affinity Photo, just in case this wasn't clear.
However, I thought batch jobs are for automated processing of photos. In what way does this interact with the panorama function?

To make my situation more clear:

I have 3 Raw files I want to stitch together with the Panorama option. But as soon as the software stitched the photos and showcase the thumbnail of it in the "new Panorama" window, they're experiencing some sort of processing, which shouldn't happen, and never happened before. 
Since this is the first panorama after the last update, I am wondering if this could be a bug? I am using the version 1.8.5.703

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I found a "solution". I developed the RAW files first and saved them as EXR. Then I stitched the EXR files. Now the panorama looks like the RAW files.

What an unnecessary extra-step. But hey, it works for now.

 

Thank you Kindly for your help!

Posted
12 hours ago, finn.thor said:

I'm afraid I don't understand exactly what you mean. I am working with Affinity Photo, just in case this wasn't clear.
However, I thought batch jobs are for automated processing of photos. In what way does this interact with the panorama function?

What I'm suggesting is that your RAW files need to be Developed before you use them for a panorama (or anything else except Opening or using in a batch job).

Yes, batch jobs are for automation of processing, and you have a bunch of photos you want to use in a panorama, so your easiest workflow is to use a batch job to develop them to some other format (such as TIFF or EXR).

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5

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