French: character style Capitals options duplicated

[Wosven]

There are errors and typos in the Edit Character style panel. (Typos and half translated too…)

3 options are dupplicated and don't apply any changes to the text.

• Caps to small caps = Capitales vers petites capitales
• Small caps = Petite caps (Petites capitales)
• All small caps = All petite caps (Tout en petites capitales)

[Alfred]

17 minutes ago, Wosven said:

Small caps = Petite caps

Not in English! The height of petite caps is the same as the x-height; small caps are taller, usually about 70% of the cap height.

Many fonts have small caps but not petite caps, which would explain why you found that the latter option didn’t work.

[Wosven]

16 minutes ago, Alfred said:

Many fonts have small caps but not petite caps, which would explain why you found that the latter option didn’t work.

Interesting point, but translation nightmare! Since Small = petit in French, and we use the generic term of petites capitales.

In ID, and from what I remember from QXD (but last version I used was 8), I only see classical "small caps".

[walt.farrell]

This may be relevant to this discussion, as it gives some background details: https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/125452/how-and-when-should-petite-caps-be-used

[Wosven]

36 minutes ago, Alfred said:

x-height

And I'll add that usually faked small caps at 70% are awful (verticals  lack width to fit with the real caps), and if possible I avoid them or set them to 85%.

x-height… the few examples I saw reassure me: that's like Comic Sans, unless under duress, I'll skip them

[walt.farrell]

I find it interesting that when editing text styles, we have these options for Typography/Capitals:

Yet, when clicking the "..." button in the Character panel, Typography, we get only these settings related to Capitals:

And in the Text, Capitalization menu, we have only:

 

The presence of Petite Caps in just one of those locations seems inconsistent.

But from the reference I cited it seems that Petite Caps are often implemented via Stylistic Sets today, so maybe that is part of the reason for the inconsistency?