Affinity photo 1.8 can't change brush size with gesture

[staughost]

Not sure how it's called but I can't change mu brush size with ctlr+alt+right click + drag. It draws windows ink "feature" and nothing happens. It works with mouse but not with wacom one tablet.

[Old Bruce]

I am on Mac. If I use Designer in the Pixel Persona the key combination of Control + Option and a right left drag works for the brushes to increase/decrease size but if I am in the Designer Persona it docent work. This is using the Wacom.

Edit: I just tried again and the key combination works in both personas, as well as in Photo. Strange, do you have the most up to date drivers for the Wacom tablet?

[staughost]

Yes I do. I think it's the problem with windows fiering up windows ink. When I turn of windows ink in tablet properties shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+RightMouseClickNHold+LeftMouseDrag- jesus it is hell of a shortcut, can it be changed to shift + drag, please) works but then pressure sensitivity is gone.

[Dan C]

Hi staughost

We changed these keyboard shortcuts for version 1.8 - on Windows please hold down ALT + Right Click, then you can click and hold Left Click to change the Size and Hardness of your tool or Left Click once to change the Brush setting.

With the Paint Brush Tool selected this will cycle between Size & Hardness, Shape & Spacing and Rotation.

I hope this helps!

[staughost]

No but thank you. It still doesn't work on tablet.

[Dan C]

My apologies for the delayed response on this thread, could you please expand on what you mean by this? Are you using a drawing tablet - if so what model are you using? Do you have Windows INK turned on or off?

[staughost]

Tablet is one by wacom medium size. Windows ink is turned on.

It works with mouse but with pen I get that ugly windows tablet circle, basically like Affinity isn't detecting my right click on tablet pen.

[Dan C]

Thanks for confirming that, if you know the model number (usually on the back of the tablet) this will help me to try to replicate the issue here.

Could you please try disabling Windows Ink, restart the Affinity app and let me know if you're still seeing the same issues?

[staughost]

It is wacom ctl-671.

When I disabled windows ink the problem is gone, but pressure sensitivity is also gone with windows ink turned off.

[Dan C]

Thanks for providing that information, I've tried to replicate this and I'm able to use pressure sensitivity with or without Windows Ink on in the Wacom settings.

Can you please double check that you're using a tool that supports pressure, as well as a brush that has variance set to pressure in the Brush Settings dialog?

[staughost]

Yes I did check, manually turned on pressure sensitivity on the most basic brush. 

[Dan C]

Unfortunately I'm not seeing the same behaviour here, as with or without Windows Ink enabled in Wacom Preferences, pressure is still supported.

Could you please navigate to Edit>Preferences>Tools and let me know if "Windows Ink for tablet input" is enabled here? Please make sure this matches your external setting, in your case both options need to be set to off.

I hope this helps

[staughost]

On 3/24/2020 at 4:05 PM, Dan C said:

Unfortunately I'm not seeing the same behaviour here, as with or without Windows Ink enabled in Wacom Preferences, pressure is still supported.

Could you please navigate to Edit>Preferences>Tools and let me know if "Windows Ink for tablet input" is enabled here? Please make sure this matches your external setting, in your case both options need to be set to off.

I hope this helps

Finally a solution. Yest it helps. Now everything works, not sure how pressure will behave now without windows ink, it seems ok.

[staughost]

Ok so the problem is back again after update. Why it won't work properly. Just a simple gesture to change size?

[staughost]

Oh sorry it works if you turn on ctrl then alt key. Why is there such a behavior? Is there a way to remove it? I personally hate it  When pressing two hotkeys I don't want to have to remember the order of them.

Ah and now rotation dosen't work.

Ok where is documentation for shortcuts on windows thank you?

[Dan C]

1 hour ago, staughost said:

Oh sorry it works if you turn on ctrl then alt key. Why is there such a behavior? Is there a way to remove it?

The new shortcut for the 'quick brush editor' is CTRL + ALT - both these keys need to be held down for the shortcut to work, I've tested this here and the order in which these keys are pressed does not matter.
Unfortunately there's no option to change this shortcut at this time, my apologies.

1 hour ago, staughost said:

Ah and now rotation dosen't work.

I'm not seeing this behaviour here, could you please provide a screen recording showing this?

1 hour ago, staughost said:

Ok where is documentation for shortcuts on windows thank you?

You can find this in the Help file, linked below -

https://affinity.help/photo/English.lproj/index.html?page=pages/Workspace/shortcuts.html?title=Keyboard shortcuts

[staughost]

Here is the thing. After some testing what happens is that ctrl+alt+leftmouse switches from width and hardness to shape and spacing or rotation. Is there any other shortcut that could trigger that editing?

this are incorrect.

And now I understand what is going on.

ctrl+alt+leftmouse drag = edit

ctrl+alt+leftmouse click = change mode

this should be stated somewhere that is obvious.

 

One more clarification why I tough it was ctrl then alt. It's because there is such a thing for zooming in and out. You first have to select one shortcut then other space then modifier. It's strange because it should go at least other way around ctrl then space (space isn't a modifier key).

[walt.farrell]

4 minutes ago, staughost said:

After some testing what happens is that ctrl+alt+leftmouse switches from width and hardness to shape and spacing or rotation. Is there any other shortcut that could trigger that editing?

Ctrl+Alt+Click will switch the parameters that you can change. Ctrl+Alt+Drag will change the parameters you have selected.

Note the distinction between a Click with the left mouse button and a Drag (click+move).

[Dan C]

3 hours ago, staughost said:

this are incorrect.

Thanks for pointing that out, I'll raise this with our documentation team now.

3 hours ago, staughost said:

this should be stated somewhere that is obvious.

As can be seen in the Update log (https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/121326-affinity-photo-for-windows-184/

On 8/3/2020 at 10:47 AM, Patrick Connor said:

Changed brush parameter shortcut from Alt+RightMouseButton to Ctrl+Alt (same as macOS)

 

3 hours ago, staughost said:

You first have to select one shortcut then other space then modifier. It's strange because it should go at least other way around ctrl then space (space isn't a modifier key).

I'm not certain what you're referring to here - to zoom you simply need to hold CTRL and use the mouse scroll wheel or + / - to zoom in an out, so 'Space' isn't needed.

[staughost]

18 hours ago, Dan C said:

Thanks for pointing that out, I'll raise this with our documentation team now.

 

It is good to know that it's going to be fixed.

18 hours ago, Dan C said:

As can be seen in the Update log (https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/121326-affinity-photo-for-windows-184/

 

And how do I access to that page from affinity photo? Shouldn't there be a link inside application to update notes?

19 hours ago, Dan C said:

  On 8/3/2020 at 11:47 AM, Patrick Connor said:

Changed brush parameter shortcut from Alt+RightMouseButton to Ctrl+Alt (same as macOS)

 

20 hours ago, staughost said:

You first have to select one shortcut then other space then modifier. It's strange because it should go at least other way around ctrl then space (space isn't a modifier key).

I'm not certain what you're referring to here - to zoom you simply need to hold CTRL and use the mouse scroll wheel or + / - to zoom in an out, so 'Space' isn't needed.

I don't use mouse with photo editing software. When using drawing tablet you don't have access to scroll wheel. Only way to get into dolly zoom is to press space bar first then ctrl to go into "zoom mode" and I fail to see why is it important to first press space and then ctrl instead of usual push two buttons and shortcut works?