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I agree with your sentiment, a small, for-profit company should focus on profit first and go where the masses of users are. They have no obligation really to listen to anyone on this forum and they can do what they want. I'm not trying to strong-arm Serif into porting to Linux in addition to Mac, iPad and windows and no one really has to agree that it's the best thing to do. It is absolutely my opinion here but I think developing for Mac, Windows and Linux is a good thing, at least for the end user to have that choice.

Without getting too much into it, I outright disagree with Microsofts ToS for windows which is why I don't use it, and I never really got along with Macs and feel it's the last OS I'd want to daily drive (this isn't bias here, I have an iphone, apple watch, ipad, apple tv and airpods etc, I love apple). This leaves me with linux, I agree to their licenses, the DE offer me the ability to work how I want to work and for the most part all the software I need is there (save for affinity suite).

I guess you could say it's selfish for me to ask Serif to bring Affinity to Linux but at the same time, other small companies and even large companies are supporting linux. Not all of them, mind you. I get that not every software company supports a linux version of their software which is kind of what I'm getting at by asking for it. There's no harm in asking at least, and at most, people requesting software for linux is a good way to show there are people asking for it.

As for your point about bugging Adobe for linux support, I would rather not use photoshop if I can help it (thats why I use affinity) and their software is a hot mess of legacy code hidden behind a rent-to-use paywall which as an individual I can't get behind. My point about serif with affinity is that the affinity suite is fresh and new, they have the chance to build something agnostic from the get-go and I'd hate for them to get to 20 years down the line and say they can't port it to linux because *their* code is now overly complicated and unruly. If they can get behind this early I think it'd be better than to decide years from now that linux is a good idea.


TLDR; IMO, in an ideal world all software would be platform agnostic and should be built that way from the start and serif has only really just begun their journey with Affinity, they have time to make this happen still.

No, you appear rude in every single post you’ve made in this thread. The others are right, you are just being toxic and hateful toward a request that people want and you clearly don’t want. When large companies like Valve and Nvidia are supporting Linux as a desktop and gaming platform, you can pretty easily see there is in fact a market for it.
I don’t even know why you’re still posting here, the only thing I can think of is you’re a Linux user that likes using a niche OS and don’t want it to get popular like some kind of hipster… or maybe you’re just a troll who never even touched Linux in the last decade. Either one is toxic.

I like their products and wish I could use it on my preferred operating systems(Linux[Pop!_OS] & Android). So I'm showing my support for this, +1 for Linux. I don't really see a need for discouraging discussion about this. Either Affinity will decide to do it or they won't. 

Well done for proving you can't read in full. 

Yes the future of development is to develop once to all platforms. Affinity may be too far down the line for this now which is a shame.

In fact I'd say the same thing about game developers who want to try to maintain a Linux Native build as well as windows, mac, consoles etc. Don't make native linux games, just make your games run via proton and you're golden. 

That said though I'd love for Affinity to start some kind of indiegogo/kickstarter/gofundme for getting affinity suite to linux. It'd do two things; prove whether or not there is a market there for Serif without spending money and gets them the money beforehand so they can happily develop for linux without worry that it'd be a waste of time.

 

Are you guys that naive that you keep playing this toxic person's game? JEEZ!

Your attempts at looking smart are so cute 😂

Don’t you have anything better to do with your time other than trolling around this forum, LondonRascal? The other thread related to this same topic got closed solely because of you. Does this give you some kind of mental reward, you freaking sociopath?
Since he will probably continue on his idiotic quest, I ask you guys to stop enabling him. Just ignore his wannabe comments. As easy as that.
Thank you 😘

it's a good point that there are various bugs. I find it to be a bug that it outright doesn't run on the platform of choice. How is asking for Linux support any more or less important than all the other requests around the forum? As I mentioned to other people here, I don't need Mac support, I dont care for being able to edit raw, so I don't care about the bugs for that platform or feature yet I don't go to bug reports and request threads for those things and complain about how much I don't need it... So why people are coming in this thread complaining that they don't use linux is beyond me lol. I do find it peculiar that people are so against requests that have nothing to do with them and don't affect them at all.

Anyways, Linux is many peoples platform of choice and there's no decent image editing applications, so it's understandable that we'd want the newest, freshest image editing application to begin it's life with a cross platform foundation. Lets face it, Affinity Photo is far from finished or complete and the longer Serif wait, the more work it'll be to get it working on Linux. I'd argue it was a mistake on Serifs part not to develop Affinity to be cross platform from the very beginning. It's not like it's impossible... Plenty of other software out there that works on Mac, Windows and Linux alike. I'd like to hear what Serif have to say about this anyway, more than negative nelly hobbyists who are angry that Linux exists.

Don’t you have anything better to do with your time other than trolling around this forum, LondonRascal? The other thread related to this same topic got closed solely because of you. Does this give you some kind of mental reward, you freaking sociopath?
Since he will probably continue on his idiotic quest, I ask you guys to stop enabling him. Just ignore his wannabe comments. As easy as that.
Thank you 😘

Don’t you have anything better to do with your time other than trolling around this forum, LondonRascal? The other thread related to this same topic got closed solely because of you. Does this give you some kind of mental reward, you freaking sociopath?
Since he will probably continue on his idiotic quest, I ask you guys to stop enabling him. Just ignore his wannabe comments. As easy as that.
Thank you 😘

Bye, Alex!

Please, you can use this same argument about Affinity Photo with PSD support, which isn't perfect so of course We ShOuLdN't UsE iT with that logic. Why do you use Affinity Photo? it's super niche, barely anyone uses it, Photoshop is mainstream and 99% of professionals will be using that.. Just like Windows vs Linux. 

Also, if you have nothing but complaints about Linux, why do you even use it for the last 25 years (which I question, since you seem to have a lot of perceptions about Linux which are just bandwagon comments from people that don't use Linux)?

Naming a bunch of old failed software as a reason for Linux failing is just fundamentally flawed logic. There's plenty of thriving software on Linux. Stop fear mongering for no reason. If you don't wan't Linux support go elsewhere and stop wasting this request thread.

Just because it's 1% of the desktop market doesn't mean it isn't more of the designers/publishers/artists/etc.
There's a much bigger proportion of Windows users that just surf the web and play games on their PC than there is of Linux users.
What proportion of people with a PC have Linux is pretty meaningless to this discussion. What matters is the proportion of Affiniy's target demographics that use Linux.

I'm sorry, but what the hell guys?! You are really arguing about how many commercial apps on Linux?! C'mon this is a thread about Affinity supporting Linux!!!

If you are a new arrival to this thread and have found that it is locked but still want to show your support for Affinity on Linux, simply like this post

And it would also be really nice if we could avoid posting comments that have no direct connection with the topic at hand. I'd rather stay subscribed to this thread because I'm really interested on a positive outcome regarding Affinity for Linux.

How something went mainstream matters a lot more than nitpicking over which guy technically thought of it first.

Steam is a particularly interesting option, IMO. Valve is very clearly committed to supporting Linux, and has put tremendous effort into parity between Linux and Mac/PC. While Valve has historically been focused on video games, this is no longer the case. This is evident by Valve's own actions, as they have promoted Steam as a full-featured app store alternative to the big guys across all desktop platforms.
This thread started in 2014, and a lot has happened since 2014, particularly in terms of Valve's contributions to Linux and WINE (their own flavor of WINE is called Proton). I just don't know enough about the technological blockers to WINE compatibility to have any realistic grasp of what might be required for compatibility. As I mentioned in one of my first contributions to this thread, my husband put in some actual effort, after finding an old bog post somewhere written by someone who got some old version of one of Affinity's products running (sort of) in Linux. We determined that there's an Affinity-specific library which is barfing when launched under WINE or Proton. There's not much we can do beyond that, unless Affinity's apps are written in unobfuscated .NET, which is something I haven't yet investigated (and highly doubt is the case here).
All this being said, it seems to me that the biggest blocker to actual feasibility here has nothing do with whether or not Linux is super cool, but more to do with the fact that hiring software engineers to port your software to Linux is no small chore, and as a smaller software publisher (than, say, Adobe or Valve or Microsoft), they don't have limitless engineering resources to throw at something.
So here's a radical idea, taking all this into consideration...
What if Affinity chose to crowdsource this effort? Not to publicly release their source code, but to essentially put out an APB for Linux software engineers in the wild to volunteer to contribute, provided they can prove they're qualified to do so. This is the kind of thing an NDA applies to very well. This proposal is, I think, functionally equivalent to the "hackathons" big companies (like Microsoft and Google) hold annually, where employees can focus their efforts on pet projects that might have nothing to do with their job description or their career focus.
Like I said - it's a radical idea, but...that doesn't make it a bad idea.
P.S. I'm proposing this with the idea that there is a nonzero quantity of Affinity users who happen to also be software engineers, either professionally, or for funsies. With a motivated enough group of people, you can accomplish a lot without having to spend a dime.

It's a shame we can't just pin things in this thread in a way, because that's what's been said for pages now, yet people still ask for solutions and options and release channels.
 
I mentioned Steam because it's a pre-existing solution that's already embedded into the linux scene.

Yup. I'm pretty sure I've stated the above at least 3 times in this thread alone. It's bound to happen in these long running topics.
Honestly, Linux or not, I'm surprised Serif hasn't done so already. Just about everyone else provides their software through Steam, and there's a fair number of people who prefer to use it exclusively over any other app store.
...though it is very, very crowded these days.

^ I fully 100% agree with you about this  - thank you!

Yeah, that probably would be something of a buzzkill, expecting some new breakthrough on the Affinity on Linux front, and getting...well, this.

For sure it might be fun for some people, but how about the rest? How about finding 83 new notifications on your email about a thread you're really interested about to later find out that it was nothing but a children's quarrel?

sweetie, your position on the relevancy of Linux is an opinion not backed by fact. If you were actually objectively correct, businesses wouldn't be investing millions in desktop Linux support.
Your opinion has been noted and discarded.