ElBeam Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Hi! I have a 2 color (black plus one spot color) design that I'm having a devil of a time getting setup correctly for output via pdf. Can someone help explain why my image is seperating into cmyk only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_K Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Hi ElBeam I've just exported a simple black shape with a separated red spot coloured shop and the spot colour does seem to be separated from the standard cmyk plates when analysed. It should be ticked by default, but can you just check that honour spot colours is checked in the more section of the export dialog for PDF? If it's still not working correctly for you, are you able to post an example file so we can take a closer look? Cheers Serif Europe Ltd - Check the latest news at www.affinity.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Hi -Having trouble uploading content to the forum. Will have it up shortly (I hope). Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Howdy! Here's a low res pdf https://www.dropbox.com/s/05v2ivexbeiomm9/horsehead%20test%20for%20affinity%2072dpi.pdf?dl=0 Pdf Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 More info: the printing press people are the ones telling me there is a problem: - When I export, I definitely have spot colours checked - the background image is grayscale, the type is spot - in the PDF file, I can see that a 5th colour was added, but for some reason my grayscale image is being converted to cmyk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Your PDF is just a white bitmap of large dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Apologies - Let me try again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Hi - this is very large file but its the best I can do to export it at all to pdf. Lots of issues trying to export to PDFs (in many different configurations). I switched to Affinity Designer and am now not able to create and output this poster (which is on deadline)! Ugh. Thanks for checking this out!! Any thoughts gratefully accepted! D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 No worries about the size, D. As you can see, the Yellow text is the Pantone color: The background image is a CMYK mix. I don't know whether you saved the image out from PS or another image editor as a grayscale with a grayscale profile or not. Nor have I even tried in the Windows beta (which is what I would be using) to replicate this potential issue. This image can be converted to gray using Acrobat. If you do not have Acrobat, I can upload your PDF with the image as gray at 10% dot gain. I'll see what happens in the beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Wait a second. I just noticed that Overprint was showing as a flag. Using Acrobat's Object Inspector, I discovered you are using a blend mode on the Pantone Type. This may well be throwing the RIP off at the printer. I am not near the computer with the RIP (home today) so I cannot check if this is true. But I don't believe it should be using a blend mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 hi mike thanks for trying to assist! A) for clarity are you suggesting that my the pantone is not set to "spot" but to "a cmyk blend"? B) and - it is the image background that is running in CMYK (which was originally set up and saved as a grayscale file that is confusing... do you think this affects A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Hi D, A) There is a blend mode on the layer, on the image or something. It is affecting your Pantone spot color. Without seeing the AD file, I wouldn't know. B ) Yes, the image is turning into a CMYK image. I just tried the Windows beta. I have no idea how to get a grayscale image out of AD. I imported one with a variety of gray embedded profiles. In every instance the image was CMYK on PDF output. the only method I can see is to export the PDF as a grayscale PDF, which defeats your needs. Using the same images in say CorelDraw, the image remained grayscale (and with a variety of layout software). If AD can do it, it is just yet another non-intuitive process. If AD cannot honor gray images, then to me it is another "not ready for primetime" thing. If this is a time-sensitive project, and you do not have other software to do this in that will honor the grayscale and or cannot get the Pantone to export without the blend mode, I can run it here and upload the PDF. Gratis, no charge type of thing. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Wow! I would be tremendously grateful for your help. Shall I upload the AD file and send you the link? (I've done this a bagillion times with Illustrator etc with no problems but this is driving me nuts! Never used any other programs besides the CSuite until this switeroo). What say you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 [Another Issue: Having trouble exporting CMYK Tiffs. The export progress bar works, file is created, but when opened it is blank (blank white preview icon).] MikeW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 No worries. Because AD cannot apparently do this two-color job, let me upload a pdf version for your inspection. It likely would be good to zip up the image itself you used just to make sure that extracting it from the pdf didn't harm it in anyway. Never has before, but things can happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Ok let me do that and I'll send a link. You ROCK!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 here's the link to zipped AD file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Here's a PDF made using the image from the PDF, the type converted to curves. The image is grayscale, the Pantone is correct. It's a two-color job. https://www.dropbox.com/s/npknrm4mjl90b31/efram%20ph5%2018x24.pdf?dl=0 I'm downloading the AD ZIP package now. I do need to run to the office and meet with a customer and so I'll be gone a couple hours. In the meantime, please inspect the PDF at the link and you can decide whether I should re-run it with the new ZIP contents. Mike Patrick Connor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Please re-run, yes. You rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The pdf I uploaded at the link is good to go. I created another after saving out your image and there is no difference. Once I get back from the office, I can upload the regen, but there is nothing to be gained. After I upload it I'll post the link and you can decide... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slv987 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I hope you guys figure this out. I've been trying to accomplish this for quite sometime using bitmap images. AD always converts them to CMYK. The only way I've been able to get spot colors to separate correctly is using all vector objects. I have not been able to switch to AD for just this reason. So for now I'm stuck using Freehand and Illustrator. ElBeam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Agreed. Hopefully Affinity will get on this STAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 And the redo... https://www.dropbox.com/s/7rnxvq7s58bqlb1/efram%20ph5%2018x24%20redo.pdf?dl=0 Sorry for the extra time. We got to talking upcoming work over a beer (or two) and I just got home. If there is any tweak you would like, please feel free to let me know. Take care, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBeam Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Thank you so much!!! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Thank you so much!!! Dan You are most welcome, Dan. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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