Anyone has the Canon EOS styles in LUT format?

[General Disarray]

If you own a Canon EOS DSLR, you know two things to be true:

1) Canon makes excellent cameras, but their software sucks in oh so many ways, and 

2) If you are an Adobe hater like me, finding a proper catalog and batch editing app like Lightroom is next to impossible.

The truth is that Adobe's practices are horrible, but Lightroom is an excellent catalog and photo editor, and other solutions go from terrible to decent, but there's always something missing. In my case, after trying out some out there, I settled for a small app called RAW Power. It's Apple Silicon native, and it's really fast. I had bought ON1 Photo RAW and I ended up returning it because it was slow as hell, and I have a Mac Studio M1 Ultra.

The problem is that RAW Power misses several features that Lightroom has, but I'm not a professional photographer, so I can deal with them, and if I want more in depth editing for some photo, I always have Affinity Photo 2. But one feature is missing is the ability to apply camera styles. If you own a Canon you're familiar with them, Portrait, Landscape, Neutral, etc. If you use the software bundled with the camera, Digital Photo Professional, you can apply those picture styles. But if you use that app you know it sucks, like most Canon apps before it. It's not Apple Silicon native, four years after Apple introduced the first machines with it, and like all the Canon apps, it's poorly coded, so it's slow not only because of having to run under Rossetta 2 (I have run several apps that way and they were perfectly fine), but because it's just bad code. Epson is no different in that regard for their printer and scanner software. I guess they can't afford to hire good programmers.

Now, RAW Power has excellent editing capabilities. And it accepts LUTs in .cube format, both preloaded, and custom ones that you can dump in a specific folder. Some of them are close to the Portrait style, but not the same. And with Canon software you can even export those styles to .pf3 format. If you have Adobe RAW installed for some reason, you can even get them from there. For example, in my PC I have Adobe CS6 (the last version you could own) and Lightroom 4.4 (also owned), and I have the file "Canon EOS 60D Camera Portrait.dcp", but no way to turn that into a .cube file.

Did anyone here run into this issue, and found a way to make the Canon camera styles into .cube LUTs? I figured that would be as easy as making a google search, but several weeks and searches later, I still haven't found a way to do it.

[walt.farrell]

4 hours ago, General Disarray said:

and I have the file "Canon EOS 60D Camera Portrait.dcp", but no way to turn that into a .cube file.

If you have software that can process the .dcp file and apply it to an image, you might try this:

1. Produce an output .tiff file using that software, with no adjustments applied.
2. Produce another .tiff file with the .dcp file applied.
3. Open a file you want to adjust in Affinity Photo.
4. Apply a LUT Adjustment, and in the dialog box click Infer LUT.
5. Select the .tiff from step 1, followed by the .tiff from step 2, and Photo will apply a matching adjustment to the file you're processing.

Help: https://affinity.help/photo2/en-US.lproj/pages/Adjustments/adjustment_3dLut.html

Also, once you have a LUT Adjustment layer, you should be able to get Photo to export a LUT file from it, which you could then add back into Photo as a LUT Adjustment preset.

Help: https://affinity.help/photo2/en-US.lproj/pages/Adjustments/export_3dLut.html

[stuck]

5 hours ago, General Disarray said:

If you have Adobe RAW installed for some reason, you can even get them from there

Are you sure you mean Adobe Camera Raw?  I thought it was Adobe's DNG converter that enabled you to get these .dcp files.  Either way, it is my understanding of these .dcp files that they are Adobe's best guess at the Canon picture styles, they are not actually the Canon original styles.

I'm happy to be corrected on any  / all of the above.

[General Disarray]

On 9/8/2024 at 6:47 AM, walt.farrell said:

If you have software that can process the .dcp file and apply it to an image, you might try this:

1. Produce an output .tiff file using that software, with no adjustments applied.
2. Produce another .tiff file with the .dcp file applied.
3. Open a file you want to adjust in Affinity Photo.
4. Apply a LUT Adjustment, and in the dialog box click Infer LUT.
5. Select the .tiff from step 1, followed by the .tiff from step 2, and Photo will apply a matching adjustment to the file you're processing.

Help: https://affinity.help/photo2/en-US.lproj/pages/Adjustments/adjustment_3dLut.html

Also, once you have a LUT Adjustment layer, you should be able to get Photo to export a LUT file from it, which you could then add back into Photo as a LUT Adjustment preset.

Help: https://affinity.help/photo2/en-US.lproj/pages/Adjustments/export_3dLut.html

Walt, first of all, I apologize for not replying sooner. I just had too much going on for the past few weeks. 

Your process works great. It doesn't give me 100% the same result as the camera portrait style, but it gets extremely close, I would say 95% there, and I'm happy with that. I don't think there's anything wrong with the process itself. There are three different programs changing the look of the raw image, so it's remarkable that it gets this close. Here's what I'm talking about. On the left, you can see the RAW CR3 photo exported to a 16 bit TIFF from Canon Digital Photo Professional, without any adjustments other than the ones recorded when I shot the photo, which obviously has the Portrait style. This style has a look that is not very faithful or natural, but I just happen to like it. On the right, you can see the same photo with the LUT applied in RAW Power.

Just for reference, this would be the same comparison but on the left you can see the RAW file as RAW Power opens it in Edit mode:

Anyone with even a mild appreciation of colors can notice that the one on the left is far more true to reality than the one on the right, but it's a matter of personal taste. I'm sure many people hate the Portrait style and that's perfectly fine. It's obvious that it's the most drastic look change of all the Canon styles.

So just to recap what I did, I changed your process so I wouldn't need to use the dcp file, because that would involve using Lightroom 4 in Windows. Actually I did that back when you posted this, but the result wasn't as good as what I ended up doing, which I was able to do in my Mac without using any Adobe dcp file or anything Adobe, which to me is always a good thing.

I started typing steps as I was doing them and corrected a few things, so I'll paste it here in case anybody else wants it. Just to avoid confusion, Canon Digital Photo Professional 4 is an app that comes bundled with all Canon DSLRs as far as I know, and you should be able to download it from the support page for your Canon DSLR. You need to enter the serial number for your camera, but that's it. It's not a very good program for browsing RAW photos, because it's slow, at least on Apple Silicon Macs, since it's still Intel only, but it's tolerable for applying certain adjustments and operations where you need the Canon native support for certain features, including the picture styles. The RAW Power developers told me that Canon doesn't provide those files easily to developers generally speaking, so if you want the specific style 100%, then you need to use DPP 4. But I'm more than happy to use RAW Power, which is way faster and has plenty of image adjustment tools, than the sluggish DPP 4. So here are the steps, although if you want to save time, I attached the LUT I ended up with, just keep in mind that it is for the EOS 90D, so I'm not sure how it would work for any other camera. 

The Walt Farrell process to convert a Canon picture style into a LUT

1. In Canon Digital Photo Professional 4,  open a RAW file that had been shot with the Portrait style
2. Export that file as a 16 bit TIFF (it’s not called export, it’s called “Convert and Save”)
3. In DPP4, change the style to Neutral and export that file.
4. In Affinity Photo, open the exported file that has the “Neutral” style.
5. In the adjustment tab, click on LUT and then double click on Default. This doesn’t change anything in the photo yet, but shows the LUT dialog/box at the bottom right
6. In that box, click the Infer LUT button.
7. A typical OS file open dialog will open. Browse and select the file you exported from DPP4 with the Neutral style applied, then click Open.
8. Right after that, it’s a bit confusing because it still shows you the open file dialog, so might seem that what you selected didn’t take, but it’s by design. Here you’re meant to select the file that you exported with the Portrait style applied so that Photo can see the difference between the photo with no style applied and the one with it. So here select that TIFF that you exported with the Portrait style, meaning the file you exported in step 2. If you want to see the difference for yourself, go to the layers tab and disable and re-enable the LUT adjustment layer.
9. Don’t close the LUT dialog, and don’t click Merge
10. Go to File > Export LUT
11. In the small dialog that appears, move the quality slider all the way to the right and enter the name for your LUT, like “Canon EOS 90D Portrait Style” or similar depending on your camera and style you’re trying to achieve.
12. Click Export and save.
13. Now, in RAW Power or any other cataloging app that opens Canon RAW files but doesn’t read the Canon picture style embedded in the CR2 or CR3 file, if it allows importing LUTs, go ahead and import the LUT file you just created. You should see the difference right away, especially when you have a photo with lots of red objects or hair, like my puppy’s hair in this case.

 

Canon EOS 90D Portrait Style v2.cube

[NotMyFault]

While the process described is correct in principle, it will cover only global color grading. It will disregard all other local changes (position dependent) like sharpness, lens distortion, chromatic aberration, noise, reduction, handling of bad pixels etc.

LUTs are great and industry standard for (global) color grading.

Canon picture profiles cover much more aspects.

All said above is intended to avoid wrong expectations by other users reading this thread. The process itself is correct and valuable for color grading.