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In documents with artboards, the option to disable "clip to canvas/artboards" needs to be able to be disabled. Selecting different artboards manually is somewhat tedious in comparison to Adobe Illustrator. And only being able to see (as well as access) shapes on that layer but off of that artboard is frustrating. Even something as simple as dragging artwork from one artboard to another becomes a chore. Determining which artboard art is "assigned" to should be determined by the X,Y coordinates of the artwork (on the artboard) and possibly even proximity to the artboard via a tolerance variable able to be adjusted within the settings. But all art should be able to remain visible regardless of which artboard the user is on. Having the ability to clip elements that arent on artboards is fine (and I can see where it would be advantageous in certain situations) but it at least needs to be able to be toggled on an off as needed. Also, I think the editing of artboard (size/renaming/positioning) should only be available through the use of the artboard tool OR to a toggle on/off LOCK ARTBOARDS option. I noticed that i was accidentally moving them while trying to select them. Users need to interact with artboards and elements on them far more often than they will need to adjust the artboards themselves.

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"Clip to Canvas" is not used when Artboards exist in the document. Objects outside any Artboard are automatically fully visible, and thus "Clip to Canvas" would have no function without a canvas.

I think you may be referring to something related to the "Edit All Layers" toggle at the bottom of the Layers panel:

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Help: https://affinity.help/designer2/en-US.lproj/pages/Artboards/artboards_objectControl.html

 

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I may have mispoke describing my issue. Appologies - I'm new to Affinity. Im referring to arboards effectively acting as clipping masks to what is currently on (or rather inside) them - anything on/in an artboard that extends beyond the artboard's bounds is clipped. But It's been brought to my attention that artboards are more of a specialized layer type rather than an additional canvas in Designer. So that might just be something I have to figure out how to work around in documents that require such things.

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Yes, that's another aspect of Artboards. Thanks for the clarification.

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I agree with everything OP has said. I don't see why toggling the clipping isn't an option when there are multiple artboards. I often have assets and notes littered across the gray space that's not on the artboard, which I quickly pull and reference to make my compositions on the art boards. It's fine when it's just one, but you can't disable when you have multiple artboards. I understand why there's an option for the clipping, but it should always be optional.

I hope they fix this. 

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1 hour ago, bmo888 said:

(Designer imports them as "pages")

More precisely, it imports them as Artboards named Page 1, Page 2, etc.

1 hour ago, bmo888 said:

It's fine when it's just one, but you can't disable when you have multiple artboards.

Sorry; I'm not sure what your use of "it" refers to. Can you explain your problem a bit more, and why having multiple Artboards is a problem?

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6 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Sorry; I'm not sure what your use of "it" refers to. Can you explain your problem a bit more, and why having multiple Artboards is a problem?

It referring to the ability to toggle "clip to canvas". When it's just one artboard you can toggle it on and off. When there are multiple artboards, there is no option to turn it off. 

Having multiple art boards isn't the problem, it's being able to turn off the clipping when there are multiple art boards. 

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7 hours ago, bmo888 said:

It referring to the ability to toggle "clip to canvas". When it's just one artboard you can toggle it on and off. When there are multiple artboards, there is no option to turn it off.

As its name suggests, although perhaps too subtly, the ‘Clip to Canvas’ option only applies if there is a canvas. If you have an artboard then you don’t have a canvas, and therefore ‘Clip to Canvas’ will have no effect.

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9 hours ago, bmo888 said:

When it's just one artboard you can toggle it on and off.

I don't think you can. I suspect, in the case where you can, you do not have an Artboard at all, but a Canvas.

I'm also unsure what problem you have, with multiple Artboards. Can you describe it, or show a screenshot and say what you need to act differently?

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8 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I'm also unsure what problem you have, with multiple Artboards. Can you describe it, or show a screenshot and say what you need to act differently?

The problem is the inability to toggle clipping on or off (mistakenly thought to apply only to multi-artboard documents, not single-artboard ones).

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2 minutes ago, Alfred said:

The problem is the inability to toggle clipping on or off (mistakenly thought to apply only to multi-artboard documents, not single-artboard ones).

But why is it a problem? What does bmo888 want to accomplish?

Unless it is really a mistake in understanding the difference between a document with a Canvas vs one with a single Artboard, too. 

What they described was wanting to have reference material in the Pasteboard, which is still possible, so I'm confused.

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1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

What they described was wanting to have reference material in the Pasteboard, which is still possible, so I'm confused.

Ah, yes, I hadn’t spotted that the problem was specifically related to items that are partially on the artboard. If they’re completely on the pasteboard, they don’t get clipped.

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9 minutes ago, Alfred said:

I hadn’t spotted that the problem was specifically related to items that are partially on the artboard

I didn't think that @bmo888 ever mentioned that, which is part of my confusion.

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15 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I didn't think that @bmo888 ever mentioned that

Not explicitly, as far as I can see, but it’s implied by this:

18 hours ago, bmo888 said:

I understand why there's an option for the clipping, but it should always be optional.

Since clipping doesn’t occur when an object is fully on or fully off the pasteboard, such an option is only relevant when items are partially on an artboard.

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