How do I access the liquify live effect via the photo persona in the publisher suite?🙏

[Clearlipstick]

My situation + iPad + complete suite of publisher, designer and photo.
Please tell me how to access the liquify live filter when in the affinity publisher suite. (Photo persona in the suite of three). I can successfully use it in the standalone photo version, but not, via the photo persona in via publisher. Absolutely nothing happens except "can’t access liquify. Please choose a Pixel layer or mask layer". Is it possible?

[NotMyFault]

Seems a bug.

[Clearlipstick]

9 hours ago, NotMyFault said:

Seems a bug.

Thank you. I thought I was going bananas..

[walt.farrell]

I agree there's a bug, but it's in having an entry for Liquify at all in the Publisher app. It's not available on the Desktop, for example, except in the complete Photo application.

Use of the Live Liquify Filter depends on having the Liquify Persona, in Photo it switches to the Liquify Persona. But Publisher has only the Photo Persona, and therefore the Live Liquify Filter should not be available there at all.

[Clearlipstick]

53 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I agree there's a bug, but it's in having an entry for Liquify at all in the Publisher app. It's not available on the Desktop, for example, except in the complete Photo application.

Use of the Live Liquify Filter depends on having the Liquify Persona, in Photo it switches to the Liquify Persona. But Publisher has only the Photo Persona, and therefore the Live Liquify Filter should not be available there at all.

Thank you. That makes sense. 

[NotMyFault]

4 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

I agree there's a bug, but it's in having an entry for Liquify at all in the Publisher app. It's not available on the Desktop, for example, except in the complete Photo application.

Use of the Live Liquify Filter depends on having the Liquify Persona, in Photo it switches to the Liquify Persona. But Publisher has only the Photo Persona, and therefore the Live Liquify Filter should not be available there at all.

Unfortunately I can’t agree this time. Adjusting a liquify live filter should be possible, even in Publisher. We are not talking about liquify Persona.

[walt.farrell]

5 hours ago, NotMyFault said:

We are not talking about liquify Persona.

In the Photo app, adjusting a Live Liquify Filter puts you into the Liquify Persona. As that Persona exists only in Photo, you can't adjust the filter in the other two applications.

[walt.farrell]

Also, please see: 

 

[NotMyFault]

Thanks for clarifying this. Even if this means another amputation of functionality on iPad vs. Desktop.

[walt.farrell]

2 minutes ago, NotMyFault said:

Even if this means another amputation of functionality on iPad vs. Desktop.

It doesn't mean that at all. As I said, it applies to Publisher in all environments. It is not iPad vs Desktop.

[NotMyFault]

34 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

It doesn't mean that at all. As I said, it applies to Publisher in all environments. It is not iPad vs Desktop.

Sorry I did not give the full context in my reply.

On Desktop, you can use Studio Link to „edit in“ any time to switch between the 3 apps, and you get all functionality of the Apps (sequentially, e.g. no info panel or channels panel from Photo while using Designer)

For V2, Affinity implemented Studio Link for the first time on iPad, but only in Publisher, and unfortunately limited to the main Personas of Designer and Photo. So you would still need to save files, open another Affinity app, load file, to switch between Apps on iPad.

For me using Publisher is the only viable way to quickly switch between Designer and Photo - but it won’t allow using liquify persona or liquify filter. 

[walt.farrell]

4 minutes ago, NotMyFault said:

On Desktop, you can use Studio Link to „edit in“ any time to switch between the 3 apps, and you get all functionality of the Apps (sequentially, e.g. no info panel or channels panel from Photo while using Designer)

That's true, and a good point.

On a pedantic note, "edit in" is not part of StudioLink, by the way. StudioLink is only the Photo and Designer Personas in Publisher.

[walt.farrell]

Also: Publisher now has the Develop Persona from Photo available if the Publisherfile has a RAW layer (embedded or linked). You get to it by double-clicking the RAW image layer or using Develop Image on the Context Toolbar.

In theory, that same approach could be used to allow use of Live Liquify Filter layers in Publisher, too. That might make a nice Feature Request.

[NotMyFault]

I don’t think user should be responsible to request all the missing Desktop-Features for iPad versions.
If required, take this list as feature request:

 

[walt.farrell]

15 minutes ago, NotMyFault said:

I don’t think user should be responsible to request all the missing Desktop-Features for iPad versions.

This topic is not about a missing iPad feature. For this discussion, the iPad can do everything the Desktop versions can do.

The Feature Request I was suggesting is to allow the Live Liquify Filter in Publisher, where neither iPad nor Desktop has it today.

[Clearlipstick]

I’m happy with the iPad program as I’m only new to digital art. It’s my understanding that it’s the only one of its kind with this many feature available for tablet use. From experience, many companies with programs tend to provide robust desktop software but limited tablet apps. 

[NotMyFault]

21 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

This topic is not about a missing iPad feature. For this discussion, the iPad can do everything the Desktop versions can do.

The Feature Request I was suggesting is to allow the Live Liquify Filter in Publisher, where neither iPad nor Desktop has it today.

While true, I simply was under the wrong impression that (editing) the life liquify filter worked under Publisher on Desktop, until I tried it. As the result we had a little cross-talking.

[.eb]

This is absurdly stupid and should be viewed as poor development. 

The entire purpose behind buying the desktop suite was to have all features of the 3 programs in the UI of one program.   
Photo is already plagued with numerous issues..  What was a value buy is now looking like a novice attempt to claim bugs are features.

Yes, I am annoyed. 

[walt.farrell]

20 hours ago, .eb said:

The entire purpose behind buying the desktop suite was to have all features of the 3 programs in the UI of one program. 

That may have been your hope, but it is not the designed nor the documented intent of the Affinity suite. In Photo you get features targeted at photographers and raster (pixel) artists, with some vector functions. In Designer you get features targeted at vector artists, with some raster art functions. And in Publisher you get features targeted at publishing and layout, but if you also own Photo and or Designer you get most (but not all) of the additional functions from those applications, too. 

Users have asked for a single all-encompassing application, and perhaps someday Serif will consider that. But for now they are separate.

[Alfred]

50 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

And in Publisher you get features targeted at publishing and layout, but if you also own Photo and or Designer you get most (but not all) of the additional functions from those applications, too.

The StudioLink feature in Publisher only gives you access to the functions in the main persona in Designer and/or the main persona in Photo.

[walt.farrell]

23 hours ago, Alfred said:

The StudioLink feature in Publisher only gives you access to the functions in the main persona in Designer and/or the main persona in Photo.

But not all of the functions of the Photo Persona of Photo. Anyway, yes, I should have been more specific. Thanks.

[Alfred]

2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

But not all of the functions of the Photo Persona of Photo.

Thanks for pointing that out, Walt. I thought it was supposed to be all of the functions of the main persona in each of the other two apps, so I haven’t done a detailed study to find out what’s there and what’s missing.