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[solved] in A_Publisher v2.0.3 : seems I can't use Zapft Dingbats / macOS Ventura 13.0.1 ?


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Zapft Dingbats is working fine on all my other apps…

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What happens when you try? Some screenshots would help.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
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I was going to answer "nothing" because nothing changed on the page but when I looked better I just get a "! Zapf Dingbats" in the font name cell.

The "!" is ???

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MacBook Pro 16 pouces (3456 × 2234), 2021 / Apple M1 Pro / 16 Go / macOS Ventura Version 13.4.1 (22F82)
+ 31,5 pouces (2560 × 1440) + 27 pouces (1080 × 1920) + iPad (8th generation) / iPadOS 17.2 + Apple Pencil + 

Macmini6,2 Quad-Core Intel Core i7 16 Go / macOS Catalina version 10.15.7 (19H2026)
MacBookAir6,2 Intel Core i5 double cœur 4 Go / macOS Big Sur version 11.7.7 (20G1345)

Licence Universelle Affinity V2 updated to 2.3.0

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It's the same in Apple Pages - you can't type latin characters and get symbol characters with Zapf Dingbats on macOS. I believe the reason you're seeing the exclamation point before the font name is you're typing characters that aren't mapped in the font.

I haven't used Zapf Dingbats in many years but if you google the font and Apple Pages you'll find that people ask about this for Pages, too. Dingbats doesn't work the way you're expecting in any of Apple's apps either.

To use this font you will need to use the Glyph Browser (Window > Text) panel. Inserting dingbats via this panel will work fine.

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1 hour ago, laurent32 said:

The "!" is ???

That ! means you have used characters that are not in the font, and a fallback font that does have the characters will be used instead

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7

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OK I think the structure of the font might have changed…

Effectively I can't even access to the font in macOS Pages anymore…

While it's no problem in QuarkXpress :

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"n" give me that square…

I'll pass the topic to [solved] considering you just have to use the Glyph Browser panel to access those glyphs.

MacBook Pro 16 pouces (3456 × 2234), 2021 / Apple M1 Pro / 16 Go / macOS Ventura Version 13.4.1 (22F82)
+ 31,5 pouces (2560 × 1440) + 27 pouces (1080 × 1920) + iPad (8th generation) / iPadOS 17.2 + Apple Pencil + 

Macmini6,2 Quad-Core Intel Core i7 16 Go / macOS Catalina version 10.15.7 (19H2026)
MacBookAir6,2 Intel Core i5 double cœur 4 Go / macOS Big Sur version 11.7.7 (20G1345)

Licence Universelle Affinity V2 updated to 2.3.0

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3 hours ago, laurent32 said:

Effectively I can't even access to the font in macOS Pages anymore…

I'm no expert on Pages but I think Apple broke the insertion of characters from fonts like Zapf Dingbats when they switched everything to the Emoji & Symbols window. They assume everybody will be happy using Emoji & Symbols now.

You used to use the Characters window in Pages to insert characters from Zapf Dingbats. You can still open this from the Font Browser (Cmd+T) and then click the ... icon in the upper left and choose Characters. But it just opens Emoji & Symbols so you might as well open that directly.

This window's last few panes have copies of Zapf Dingbats characters which appear identically regardless of whether you format them as Helvetica or Zapf Dingbats.

Here is a screenshot from Apple Pages showing a few symbols in Zapf Dingbats and Emojis. As you can see, Apple just copied the Zapf Dingbats glyphs except for the black phone but scaled a couple differently relative to the others at the same size.

So in Affinity, use the Glyph Browser for traditional Zapf Dingbats or Emoji & Symbols if you don't care. In Apple apps, use Emoji & Symbols. In other apps like Word and Quark, they mapped the Dingbats character set to the latin characters just like back in the old 256-character font days. Sure it would be nice if Affinity would do this but it's probably a low priority since there's an easy way to insert them.

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