Leijoona Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Hi, I'm exporting designs to pdf for print. All the designs have only Pantone colors, but one of the designs has a Pantone color with 30% tint. Everything else exports fine in Pantone, but the the Pantone tint changes to CMYK during export. All the designs are exported with same settings. Any idea what's happening here? Thanks! Joona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Leijoona said: exporting designs to pdf for print What exact export preset or setting are you using? Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 So, I did a few quick export tests, and a conversion from spot to cmyk happens if: the spot tint have been achieved by using opacity, rather than the actual Tint slider, and the export PDF preset thus needs to rasterize such objects, like PDF/X-1 and X-3, as they cannot deal with opacity otherwise and also if a layer effect that affects the fill has been applied to the object, like inner shadow, because that will cause rasterization and conversion to CMYK in any case (a long known bug!) Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leijoona Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 Sorry for the delay, christmas, new year, yeah I've used the Tint slider, not opacity. I haven't used any fill effects either, it's just a simple one tint colored vector graphic. I've attached my settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_l Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Leijoona said: I've attached my settings. Hmm, works for me. Could you attach a sample .afpub file? Quote ---------- Windows 10 / 11, Complete Suite Retail and Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leijoona Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 This is in Affinity Designer, but I'll ccheck if I can get you a file without any client info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leijoona Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 Here's a file for testing. Tint_test.afdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_l Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, Leijoona said: Here's a file for testing. Strange, but got it working. 1. Make PANTONE 7499 C Global 2. Rename Spot to PANTONE 7499 C, because the name was empty 3. Assign PANTONE 7499 C (from the Swatches panel) to the diamond 4. Use the Colour panel to make it 30% THIERRY.S 1 Quote ---------- Windows 10 / 11, Complete Suite Retail and Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leijoona Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 Ok that was strange but I got it working. Renamed (my color somehow had a name) the Pantone color, and turned it global. That seemed to work. Thanks for your help @joe_l! joe_l 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THIERRY.S Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Hi, I have the exact same problem here with my design. I'm using the Pantone 2311 CP (I also tried with 2311 C). When I export in PDF/x-4 my design with the Pantone 75% tint, it turns to CMYK. Can someone help me ? I tried to follow the advices that were given before, and it worked with the Pantone 7499 C, but it didn't with my color. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THIERRY.S Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 1/4/2023 at 8:55 AM, joe_l said: Strange, but got it working. 1. Make PANTONE 7499 C Global 2. Rename Spot to PANTONE 7499 C, because the name was empty 3. Assign PANTONE 7499 C (from the Swatches panel) to the diamond 4. Use the Colour panel to make it 30% Hi, I have the exact same problem here with my design. I'm using the Pantone 2311 CP (I also tried with 2311 C). When I export in PDF/x-4 my design with the Pantone 75% tint, it turns to CMYK. Can someone help me ? I tried to follow the advices that were given before, and it worked with the Pantone 7499 C, but it didn't with my color. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, THIERRY.S said: I'm using the Pantone 2311 CP (I also tried with 2311 C). When I export in PDF/x-4 my design with the Pantone 75% tint, it turns to CMYK. It appears you used the "Pantone Bridge" palette which results in CMYK (and no spot colour swatch). If you choose the "Pantone Formular Guide Solid" it works as wanted. v1105 pantone.afpub v1105 pantone.pdf THIERRY.S 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_l Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 hours ago, THIERRY.S said: I tried to follow the advices that were given before, and it worked with the Pantone 7499 C, but it didn't with my color. The creation and managing of colours in Affinity is still a joke. Not sorry to say that. The following Pantone colours are spot right from the start: Metallics, Pastels & Neons, Formular Guide Solid and Goe. You see a spot added in the Swatches panel, when picked. Maybe there are faster ways to create a spot from a specific Pantone Colour that has no spots in the Swatches panel. 1) Add a document palette. 2) Select the Panone 2311 CP from the Pantone pulldown. 3) Add current fill to your document palette. 4) Pick Add Global Colour from the Hamburger menu of Swatches panel. 5) Select Swatches from the pulldown in that window and from there Pantone 2311 CP. 6) Click Spot checkbox and rename the colour to PANTONE 2311 CP and then click Add. 7) Delete the non-spotted colour. Or Add a Global Colour and use the colour values (if you know them) and make it spot. What a joyride ... not. THIERRY.S 1 Quote ---------- Windows 10 / 11, Complete Suite Retail and Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THIERRY.S Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Thank you for your help ! It worked 🤓 joe_l 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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