Bobthearch Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 I realize Windows 7 is an older operating system, but the computer was built as a high-end machine and still runs very well. I currently run Affinity, On1, ACDSee, DaVinci Resolve, and many others with no performance issues. At this time the cost of a new build is prohibitive, especially just to install a single program that requires a newer OS. Is there a particular technical reason why V2 is incompatible with Windows 7? Is it the MSIX installer perhaps? Or maybe it's just listed as incompatible as a disclaimer? Just curious. G-ELP 1 Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bobthearch said: Is there a particular technical reason why V2 is incompatible with Windows 7? Is it the MSIX installer perhaps? I recall seeing a post from Serif saying that even when they release an MSI-based installer, the apps will not run on Windows 7. Bobthearch 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Bobthearch Posted November 20, 2022 Author Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: I recall seeing a post from Serif saying that even when they release an MSI-based installer, the apps will not run on Windows 7. I've encountered a few programs now that claim to be incompatible with Windows 7, but in real life work just fine. I think some software companies are using it as a disclaimer just because they no longer test on Windows 7 and don't want to be responsible for troubleshooting and bugfixing potential issues. G-ELP 1 Quote
Dan C Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 Hi, There are many reasons not to support Windows 7, technical, security, and the simple fact that Microsoft no longer support Windows 7. Windows 8 also loses support in January. Lee Quote
Bobthearch Posted November 20, 2022 Author Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, LeeThorpe said: Hi, There are many reasons not to support Windows 7, technical, security, and the simple fact that Microsoft no longer support Windows 7. Windows 8 also loses support in January. Lee I understand completely if they don't officially 'support' Windows 7. But what is actually preventing the program from running on Windows 7? That's what I'm curious about. I suspect some software companies are filtering by OS during the install process to manufacture a compatibility issue when the software would otherwise work just fine. G-ELP 1 Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Bobthearch said: But what is actually preventing the program from running on Windows 7? From what was said so far, some as-yet-unstated functions that the V2 apps use that Windows 10 supports and Windows 7 doesn't. I don't know if Serif will want to get more specific than that. Bobthearch 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
cajhin Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 Affinity v2 uses WPF (a relatively modern Windows framework), and I guess they use a fresh version of .NET Microsoft doesn't port all frameworks back to old Windows versions, too much effort. You simply cannot install .NET 6 on Windows 7. At some point, developers have to cut off old Win versions, if they want to use up-to-date development tools. I still like Win7, but it's 14 years old now, and no security holes have been fixed for two years now. Time to update... you don't have to build new hardware, unlike 11, Win10 runs on pretty much any hardware that runs XP/Win7. Update licenses from MS are changing between free and total rip-off; grey but not illegal licenses are available for little money. Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, cajhin said: You simply cannot install .NET 6 on Windows 7. Affinity apps still use .NET 4.8, as far as I know. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
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