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I'm on Windows 11. I just installed Affinity Designer 2 & Affinity Photo 2 but still have both Affinity Designer 1 & Affinity Photo 1 installed on my PC.

Windows Apps shows Affinity Designer 2 at 116Mb & Affinity Photo 2 at 173Mb

But Windows Apps shows Affinity Designer 1 at 1.03Gb & Affinity Photo 1 at 1.06Gb.

Are Affinity Designer 2 & Affinity Photo 2 proxies & internet dependent? I didn't need to use a product key when installing. I'd prefer a standalone install without needing to connect to the internet to use my software. 

Did I do something wrong while installing? If so, how to correct?

Affinity Designer 2.0.0 Windows  · Affinity Photo 2.0.0 Windows  ·  Windows 11 Pro 64-bit   ·  AMD Ryzen 9-3900X 12-Core 3.80Ghz  ·  16Gb RAM   ·  Asus DUAL-RTX2070-O8G-EVO-V2 
 
 
 
 
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1 hour ago, GARoss said:

Are Affinity Designer 2 & Affinity Photo 2 proxies & internet dependent?

No.

1 hour ago, GARoss said:

Did I do something wrong while installing?

No, as far as I know.

I'm not really sure what Windows is "counting" when it provides those numbers.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1

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5 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

No.

No, as far as I know.

I'm not really sure what Windows is "counting" when it provides those numbers.

I was reading your other response to a similar question when this came in.

So, it's an "app" now? Don't know if that's good or bad but can't think of what might be good. The bad would seem to be an app wouldn't utilize all my PCs processing power.

I did think it was strange that a product key wasn't required.

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27 minutes ago, GARoss said:

The bad would seem to be an app wouldn't utilize all my PCs processing power.

An App can use all the same functions that any other program can, as far as I know.

There are annoyances with the packaging, but there are benefits. I don't have a full list of them, but after the initial installation updating will be simpler, and faster, for one.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1

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17 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

An App can use all the same functions that any other program can, as far as I know.

There are annoyances with the packaging, but there are benefits. I don't have a full list of them, but after the initial installation updating will be simpler, and faster, for one.

All this app business is weird. Reading elsewhere in this forum I ran across the (I'll call it the core) of the app. You'll need to toggle on " view/hidden files" to find the core.

C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\SerifEuropeLtd.AffinityPhoto2_2.0.0.1640_x64__3cqzy0nppv2rt\App

In that folder there's 1.22Gb of data. So, all the data is installed on my PC.

 

Affinity Designer 2.0.0 Windows  · Affinity Photo 2.0.0 Windows  ·  Windows 11 Pro 64-bit   ·  AMD Ryzen 9-3900X 12-Core 3.80Ghz  ·  16Gb RAM   ·  Asus DUAL-RTX2070-O8G-EVO-V2 
 
 
 
 
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4 hours ago, GARoss said:

You'll need to toggle on " view/hidden files" to find the core.

You need to do more than that, because not only is WindowsApps Hidden, it has permissions very carefully set so that no user, even an Administrator, can look inside that folder. If you can see the folders/files inside it, you've modified the default Windows permissions.

But you shouldn't need to see inside it. All the files you normally should need to interact with are located elsewhere.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1

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5 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

You need to do more than that, because not only is WindowsApps Hidden, it has permissions very carefully set so that no user, even an Administrator, can look inside that folder

Actually, you can just type/paste the full install path in the address bar of File Explorer and it will show the files with no complaints, no need to turn on show hidden files, not that this will be that useful to you. What you can't do is double click and enter the WindowsApp folder without Windows complaining about it. You can get the install path by opening a Windows Powershell and entering 'Get-AppxPackage -Name *AffinityDesigner*', without the quotes. Change Designer to Photo or Publisher for those Apps. There is a huge amount of misconception on this forum about what msix actually is.

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9 hours ago, Jon S said:

Actually, you can just type/paste the full install path in the address bar of File Explorer

Thanks. I hadn't figured that out.

Still have the problem that the path name changes with every update. The App Execution Alias is supposed to fix that, giving a stable name. But some applications don't seem to be able to accept the aliases, so that is still an issue.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1

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