Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 Hi everyone! I have a little problem using color swatches in affinity (across all three programms). I defined some colors and safed those in named swatches. To use the colors across all affinity tool, and to use it in some other software. The strange thing is now, that in some dokuments the colors are differently interprated then in others - also if i use the same color settings for the dokments sometimes i get the correct result and sometimes a different... Can anybody told me why this happens?? What I am not seeing here?? I will attach two designer dokuments, with the same color settings...but different results! Thanks for your help! Andreas ColorPalette.clr Correct Colors.afpub Strange Colors.afdesign Ninjas 1 Quote
Hangman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 There is something very odd going on with the way Affinity Designer is interpretting the ISOcoated_v2_300_eci.icc Colour Profile. If you look at how the colour gamut is displayed when your files import the Colour Profile (the two images on the left) you can visually see the difference in how Designer interprets it in the top left image. Independently of your files I added the ISOcoated_v2_300_eci.icc Colour Profile to my Mac and recreated your file in both Designer and Publisher and the colours display correctly in both as do the colour palettes when using the ISOcoated_v2_300_eci.icc Colour Profile (the two images on the right). When you compare how this strange issue translates the CMYK values for each of the colours in your file you'll see marked differences... Publisher on the left, Designer on the right below. Not that it is the cause of the issue but where did you export your colour palette from out of interest? The first four colours in your file use the RGB sliders, the black at the bottom uses the CMYK sliders but it makes no sense why you would get such a discrepency in CMYK colour values between Designer and Publisher when using the same Colour Profile. I'm unsure if this is a Designer Bug or a possible corrupted Colour Profile or quite what is causing the difference between the two files, maybe one for the Affinity Team? Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO and Ninjas 1 1 Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3125 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO Posted November 25, 2021 Author Posted November 25, 2021 Thanks for you reply hangman! When I use color swatches I am never sure how to do it correct... Because if you hover on a saved color the values of this color are displayed. But independent of the document setup, the displayed values are showing HSL, RGB, CMYK or Pantone Values - all mixed up!? So what exactly is saved when a color is saved to a swatch? Is the color saved as the values which are used at the moment of saving?? Or are values saved dependent to the document i am in? Thats why my palette is mixed up a little... for this customer i use RBG documents (web) and CMYK documents (print)... most of the colors are defined while working for print...but some colors have to be optimised for web...so some RGB are mixed. But however the colors are saved exactly. I used the same colors I saved in a CMYK document in a new CMYK dokument...and got the mentioned results. This should not be - right? The top-left of your upper pics is the result I get...witch looks quite ugly Thanks for your help! Ninjas 1 Quote
Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO Posted November 25, 2021 Author Posted November 25, 2021 ...my two files are one designer and one publisher... But this is just for example. I also have other designer files doing the same ugly color misinterpretation! Quote
lacerto Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 Obsolete. Ninjas and Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO 1 1 Quote
Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO Posted November 25, 2021 Author Posted November 25, 2021 Thank you! I do understand...but I am still a little confused. I will try some things by my own and I hope i'll get it then... Thanks for now! Quote
Hangman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 @Lagarto Good spot, I didn't think to check the default underlying RGB settings for both files, all makes sense now... 🤓 Ninjas 1 Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3125 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Hangman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 1 minute ago, AndreassaerdnA said: I do understand...but I am still a little confused. I will try some things by my own and I hope i'll get it then... This may help from the help file... Quote By default, the colour space is locked when using Sliders (e.g., CMYK sliders) to prevent it from changing. This avoids inadvertently swapping to another mode after using swatches or selecting a different object created with a different colour mode. When unlocked, the Colour panel will remember the colour mode that the selected object was created in. This lock only works on the current session; subsequent sessions will use the HSL colour wheel as default. Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3125 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO Posted November 25, 2021 Author Posted November 25, 2021 Thanks for your help! @hangman and @lagarto! the quote helps...but some trial is needed now Thanks for now! Maybe I'll come back to this thread...If my trials ending up in errors. Quote
Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO Posted November 25, 2021 Author Posted November 25, 2021 hmm... if i open the "strange color" file and look into the doc settings i get this. My settings show CMYK and Iso coated... if I change to RBG...assign/convert is inactive...? Quote
Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO Posted November 25, 2021 Author Posted November 25, 2021 But what would be be best method to save colors in swatches if i have to work in different color profiles...? How do you handle this? Quote
Hangman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 I would add colours to a colour palette based on the colour space of the document set up, i.e., RGB and/or HSL sliders for an sRGB web based file and CMYK/Spot colour for a file using a CMYK colour space. Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO and CLC 2 Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3125 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
lacerto Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 Obsolete. Ninjas, Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO and Hangman 2 1 Quote
Andreas - ImagoSTUDIO Posted November 25, 2021 Author Posted November 25, 2021 so you would create multiple color palettes for each color setup? Quote
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