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Photo persona Metadata panel display empty fields


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Hi,

It's nice to be able to get metadada from pictures directly in a tool like APub, but the Metadata panel display empty fields when there are data in AP.

The ability to convert some fields to global variables/fields for APub,  would be useful to retrieve caption and copyrights if the text frame containing them touch an image.

Empty panel in APub:

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Same image and metadata in AP:

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The metadata is for the document, not for a layer of the document.

In Photo that document is the photograph, but in Publisher you have a different document, with 2 images in it, and you're just looking at 1 layer of the document.

If you select the image and then click the Edit Image button, or double-click the image's layer in the Layers panel, you'll open it for editing in a new tab in Publisher. Then you can look in the Photo Persona and you'll have metadata for that document.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
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But those metadata are specific for images, and should be display accordingly depending of thje selected image.

If they are for the APub document, they should be in the fields panel, not in a sub persona panel, and they should be differents, since IPTC, EXIF, RAW, etc. are specific to images. There's no reason to give such metadata to a multipages and/or multi-images file.

I think the feature will and should be implemented later, to display the selected image metadata, as done in other applications like APub, so you can read them, and even better: copy them, or link them to a field.

 

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19 minutes ago, Wosven said:

But those metadata are specific for images, and should be display accordingly depending of thje selected image.

But they aren't displayed that way. The metadata panel is showing the metadata for the document.

When you simply switch between the Publisher and the Photo Persona, you're still in the Publisher document, which doesn't have any metadata.

You'll find the same thing in Photo, by the way:

  1. File > New
  2. FIle > Place and and put an image on the new document.
  3. The Metadata panel won't show you any metadata. In 1.9 beta, if you choose to Link the image instead of embedding it, you can click Edit Image and then you will have info in the Metadata panel.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7

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5 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

But they aren't displayed that way. The metadata panel is showing the metadata for the document.

But that's not usefull unless you do a multi page document to only export pieces of it to JPG, PNG or TIFF.

The feature would be more usefull if it was displaying the metadata of the selected image, and the main document metadata when working in AP or AD.
It would be really helpfull when using different images to create a new one, when you have to check the credits to attribute them (for now, it's a pain to keep track of those in the apps, you need to keep the original images in a folder, or write down those data in a text file, when metadata are here for this).

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1 hour ago, Wosven said:

The feature would be more usefull if it was displaying the metadata of the selected image, and the main document metadata when working in AP or AD.

Feel free to make a Feature Request. Note that it should apply to Photo, too, because it has the same issue when working with documents that have images added to them (e.g., a collage of some kind, or a poster with text and an image).

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7

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