Omit edges on a picture frame/image

[bionicgeekgrrl]

I'm just starting to migrate from PagePlus X9 to Publisher 1.8.x and so far I'm liking the software, though I am still finding my way a bit.

In PagePlus X9 I could give a text frame/image/object a border/frame and part of the options was to omit edges as desired. I can't see a way to replicate this function in Publisher?

I can create a outline around the object (a basic rectangle with a colour given to it) and give it a colour, etc. But I don't want this on all sides (on some this doesn't matter as the border will be in the bleed part, but it would be neater to be able to control this a bit better).

Am I missing something somewhere? or is the outline effect the wrong way to go about this?

[Joachim_L]

You cannot omit edges of the text frames out of the box AFAIK, but there are workarounds:

1. Create a rectangle, convert to curves, omit one edge and convert to text frame.

2. Use Decorations from the Paragraph panel and apply to paragraphs.

3. Make a single cell table.

[bionicgeekgrrl]

On 6/10/2020 at 7:50 AM, Joachim_L said:

You cannot omit edges of the text frames out of the box AFAIK, but there are workarounds:

1. Create a rectangle, convert to curves, omit one edge and convert to text frame.

2. Use Decorations from the Paragraph panel and apply to paragraphs.

3. Make a single cell table.

Thanks for the reply Joachim_L, sorry about the delay getting back to this.

I'm trying to place a border around a photo/image rather than the text however.

Below is an example of what the current design in PagePlus looks like, I want to keep the design close to this if possible.

Borders around the images are not essential, but I like the clear definition between text and image as can be seen on the sample page of the last issue to be drawn up in PagePlus below:

Below is what I currently have for the issue in Publisher:

I still have some tidying of the design to do so some elements of it don't quite line up as I'd like just yet, so ignore those. But I've created the image border using the Pen Tool, which for an image like above works well enough as long as it is parallel each time. The problem comes when joining two together (I can't seem to get rid of the angled bevel where they join when I do two lines joined) and keeping all lines parallel.

Does that make what I'm looking to do a bit clearer?

[Joachim_L]

Yes, a bit clearer. I experimented a bit to make the best strategy (also for my personal use), but there are always some obstacles. So in the end I can only tell, what I would do.

a) To get a perfect rectangle with one side open, just hold the SHIFT key while using the pen tool. To get rid of the angled bevel look at the Stroke panel at Join and Mitre and change the parameters there.

Disadvantage of a): You have to calculate too much. What is the size of the pen stroke box, what is the size of the image and how to align them together.

b) Draw a rectangle with a stroke aligned to inside. Turn this rectangle into a picture frame and place the image inside.

Disadvantage(s) of b): Perfect so far, as you have now the exact outer dimension for a pixel perfect placement. But you want it to have the rectangle on one side open. So you have to convert the frame to curves and break two nodes to remove one line. But now the stroke is aligned to the centre and you have to calculate again, because the coordinates of the outer edges are now moved.

c) Use the outline effect on the image.

Disadvantage(s) of c): You cannot remove one edge and the corners are always round.

d) Draw a rectangle with no stroke on three sides wider as your image and align your image to this rectangle. Done.

I am really curious if others have method e), f), g) ... which are way better than my preferred method d)?

[GarryP]

Edit: I’ve just realised that this won’t work for facing pages layouts where some of the layers will overlap the opposite page. So feel free to ignore this for facing page layouts but I’ll leave this post in just in case it’s useful for people with single page layouts.

Unless I have misunderstood your requirements (Edit: I did.), you can achieve what you want by giving the various layers a Stroke aligned to the Outside, snapping your layers to the bleed area, and then ordering the layers appropriately.
See attached image and document where you can see most of the strokes come outside the (grey rectangle) bleed area.
Or am I missing something?

no-need-for-missing-edges.afpub

Edited July 7, 2020 by GarryP

[PixelPest]

 Maybe I´m not understanding the briefing right now (annotations on the screenshots might help). I´m not getting why frames or rectangles are used instead of simple lines/strokes or attached strokes to images or text-frames.