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  1. Hello, When I was about to get a PDF of the Lobster Two font, I noticed that the period (".") at the end of the sentence was (amazingly) from the Orkney font. (The Lobster Two font was used only in a title, well away from the main text which was in the Orkney. Anyway, when I changed it to the (correct) Lobster Two font, it worked fine. Thanks for all your help. I'm now finding that there is a little randomness in my Canon Pro 100 printer. It's about one millimeter in the difference of where it starts printing. This means, of course, that this is the lower limit of how accurately I can get the center of one side of the paper to the center of the other side. Kind regards, Robin
  2. Thanks for the interest. I will get a pdf of the font and send it to you. (I should get that done later today.) The issue was a small difference in the look of the characters between Publisher and a pdf after export. A more dramatic font issue was with Orkney and that issue has gone away thanks to a corrected version of Orkney being sent to me. I'm so grateful. The book is 100 pages, hence 25 sheets of paper. I have not solved the imposition problem yet though, via several workarounds, I think I am getting close. The following are the kinds of issues that I have been experiencing. I have photos that are printed over the entirety of, virtually, every spread. This implies that, given the imposition, most of these images are split, the left side being printed on one sheet of paper and the right side on another. Hence, front to back registration needs to be perfect but, I have discovered, nominal 11" x 17" paper may not be exactly that size. I have been playing around with both custom paper sizes and with stipulating a margin when printing, say, the odd sheets and changing this margin when printing the even sheets. I'm getting close but it's not quite right yet. Even a millimeter off and it shows when the signatures are bound into the book. (Even a millimeter of the wrong image appearing down the middle of another image stands out. Such a small error would never be noticed in a "normal" book with margins on each page.) Also my Canon Pro 100 driver allows me to stipulate paper size to 1/100 of a millimeter but only lets me set a margin to 1/10 inch. Clearly, I want to use bleed, crop marks and registration marks. This has not proved easy. I can't use them successfully with the pdf editor I have and have recently downloaded the free version of Montax just to experiment. (The free version will not handle the paper size I need.) I get the feeling that Montax would enable me to do what I need but I have not yet managed to find out how. As with most software nowadays, the manual is, essentially, a description of features and NOT any instruction on how to do anything. That is, if I already know what steps I need to take but don't know which menu has the tools I need, then the manual will help. However, as a newbie, I don't yet know the steps. At this time, my book is divided into three Publisher files; part 1, part 2, and the appendices. Part 1, when exported as a pdf covers 47 pages of the book. It would be very efficient if I could select a subset of these pages and have them printed as a booklet (i.e. a signature) without having to create a new file. This would make it much easier on me should I decide to change the signature size. At this time Publisher cannot print a subset of the pages as a booklet. I'll get the pdf of Lobster Two as soon as possible. Thanks, Robin
  3. LibreTraining, Thanks. I'll try those fonts tomorrow. I've been working on this little book for two years and am now, finally, at the stage of printing it and binding it. I'm amazed by how many problems, even at this late stage, arise. The fonts problem was a couple of days ago. Today I had another (and new) problem (never happened before). In order to get the imposition done, I am exporting a PDF, splitting into separate files and putting it back into Publisher one signature to a file. Then printing as a booklet. So a single photo that covers both left and right hand pages, gets split (on export as pages) then put back together again, as the central sheet of a signature. The problem is that, when put back together, the left part of the photo does not line up with the right part. Oh dear! I must try to find another way of doing it. But I'll let you know about the fonts. Robin
  4. Hello, I am using a medium italic Orkney font at the beginning of a section and regular Orkney for the rest. The document has existed from before the 1.7.0.376 update. Now, although it looks fine visually (some italic and the rest regular) Publisher claims they are both medium italic. Furthermore, when I export to PDF, the regular comes out fine but the words that really are italic come out as gibberish. For example, the words "Front endsheet" come out as "Htqpv gpf uj ggv"! With another font, Lobster Two, an extra character appeared in the PDF. They used to print out fine. Is this a bug or am I failing to do something? Robin
  5. Hello, I found the key in the Affinity Photo folder and all is now well. Robin
  6. Hello All, I too had the situation that it would not accept the product key for Photo. I wondered if this was a result of an upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. I do have Photo on another machine and tried to check that I had the correct key. However, I cannot find where the key is kept. Where can I check the product key on my working copy of Photo? Thanks, Robin
  7. RobinMcL

    Imposition

    Hello Mike, Thanks for the offer. That is very kind of you. Montax sent me another email today with more details and suggested that I first try it out on the free version. This seems a very reasonable approach to me and I am quite impressed that they have taken so much care in their responses. I think that I should follow their advice and try it myself first. Since both you and Montax think it will work, I need to learn the steps myself - so why not try to learn now. As I am doing this, I have (via my workaround) produced signatures and so have moved on to the printing stage. I have noticed, for a very long time, that the same image will print out differently (same paper, same profile, same intent etc.) depending on which app I am printing from. This issue is my next big hurdle. I will probably end up asking some questions on the Forum but, to be very careful, I am slowly stepping through things using a few test images I downloaded from the web. I'll let you know how my Montax test gets on. Thanks, Robin
  8. RobinMcL

    Imposition

    Thanks for the suggestions Mike. My document has images that cover the entire spread and so I have to start with spreads and then have them split (automatically) into separate pages. Unfortunately, when Publisher does this they add extra bleed on the inside of the pages; bleed that was not there. If I could have started from pages (rather than spreads) I would have. I inquired of Montax and they told me that, while what I need was, with a big effort, possible in their software, I would have to do the splitting manually! What they said was the best way to accomplish this (surprise, surprise) was to export pages from the publishing software (exactly what I wanted to do but could not because of the bug in Publisher). So, no help from that source. I have discovered a reasonable (not good but "reasonable") workaround. I make the pages larger by the amount of bleed that I need. (Actual bleed set to zero) then I export pages to PDF. Then I split the pdf into separate files, one for each page. Then I take bunches of pages (as pdfs) back into Publisher; the right number for a signature. This gives me a Publisher file for each signature. Then I print each as a booklet. Voila. I then sew these into a text block. This block is a little larger than need. I then trim it to size. If Publisher could split spreads without adding extra bleed, it would be great. If, in addition, you could print a SELECTION of pages as a booklet (not just the entire document) it would be perfect. In the meantime, my workaround is not too onerous (because Publisher DOES split spreads correctly IF you DON'T have bleed) and the pdf splitting of a single file into many files is also automatic (in my PDF editor). So the entire process is not as cumbersome as my explanation of it is! Note: I don't think I would have come up with this workaround without the input of people (like yourself) on the Forum and (in this case) helpful comments from PDFSam (my pdf editor) support. Thanks to all. Robin
  9. RobinMcL

    Imposition

    Hello MikeW, The trim size will be 8.25" by 9.75". I am using 11" x 17" double-sided, grain short, photo paper for the printing. I will be following up with your other suggestions. I have, already, tried a free imposition app and have also purchased one. They both work fine on pages but neither can split a spread with bleed into two pages (which would then have bleed only on three sides). I have been checking the status of this issue for over two years. Things change quickly. A bug today may very well be fixed in the next release. I consider this a bug in Publisher since if I print a spread and cut it in half, I get two pages with bleed round only three sides. However, if I first split the spread in Publisher and then print it out, I get two pages with bleed round all four sides. Publisher adds bleed where there was none. Had I wanted bleed round all four sides, I would not have set up the document to use facing page spreads. I have had plenty to do over the last two years and so could go on with other things while hoping that either Serif would fix this or some pdf imposition software would add the feature. But, finally, all the other tasks have been done and the ONLY task remaining is to print it out so that I can bind it. So this is why I asked again. I contacted Serif to determine if they have any plans to fix this. They don't. I contacted the makers of my imposition software and they say that they do have plans to have this feature in a later version. Since it is a highly specific feature (for a PDF app) it is not something that is likely to be highlighted on a company's website. This is why I am now writing to companies to ask them specifically about this feature. I'll keep doing this. Since my document is utterly vanilla (facing pages, starting on the right) like all other books (bar some paperbacks) that I have, I wondered if others might have a solution and could tell me precisely which products (and the price) to get. Obviously, professional printing houses have software to do this but the prices are well beyond what I can afford. Until I find software that can do it, I have developed a compromise, not great but workable. Sincerely, Robin
  10. RobinMcL

    Imposition

    Hello Walt, I struggle to explain this and, I suspect, several people on the forum have not understood what I am trying to say. Ultimately, after imposition, I have a collection of spreads, each one having a left hand page and a right hand page. Apart from the central sheet of a signature, the left hand page and right hand page will not be in sequence. That's what the imposition is all about. Now, if I export spreads form Pub, the pdf software can't split them into pages. That's the new feature I would like to have. So, I have to export pages. Okay. if I export them without bleed, then the pdf app can do the imposition, re-order the pages and create spreads from the re-ordered pages. The number of pages MUST be divisible by four since each sheet of paper has two pages on each side, hence four pages per sheet. So, what is actually printed out is a collection of spreads. As an example, my page size is 8.25" x 9.75" so I am using 17" x 11" paper, two pages, side by side. These sheets of paper are folded right down the middle, stacked up in bundles (signatures), and sewn together. After that, they get trimmed down to the correct page size. But where's the bleed? If I export the pages WITH bleed, then it adds this amount ON ALL SIDES. Say I have 0.2" of bleed. Then the actual image that is exported as a pdf is NOT 8.25" but 8.65". The reordering works fine but, when two of these pages are stuck together again via the imposition, there is a 0.2" + 0.2" = 0.4" of bleed IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPREAD. Here's another analogy. Take a photo, cut it in half. Now FRAME each half (That's bleed.). Now take the two FRAMED halves and set them side by side. The photo is NOT together. It has TWO thicknesses of frame between the halves. That frame is exactly the same as the bleed. IF (magic, magic!) I could export pages BUT ask for bleed ONLY round three sides, it would work like a dream. But I can't. I hope this helps explain what is going on. I really wish I could print directly from Pub without having to go to a pdf. I find that, when I take images from Photo and put them into Pub, the colors change. Then when I move them from Pub to a pdf, they change again. I've got calibration equipment and do the printer/paper calibration to get the ICC profile but, by the time things have gone from Photo (where I start) through Pub and into some pdf, the colors are really messed up so all my efforts on calibration do is to assure me that they are rendering the wrong colors accurately! In Pub, I can try to fix up the changes that have happened in going from Photo to Pub so I get good prints when I can do it directly from Pub. Ah well. This book is for my first grandchild. I started it when he was born. He's now over 2 and - another grandchild is on the way, so, another book! (Can't do one for one kid and not the other.) I have everything done and am now struggling to get it printed. Thanks for the interest. The Forum is all I have to help me. I spent ages trying to find local people with experience, but to no avail. Thanks Walt. Robin
  11. RobinMcL

    Imposition

    Thanks Walt. I have been working with a PDF editing app and have contacted the company with my query. The imposition is fine provided the app does NOT need to split the spread into two pages. So, if I do NOT need Bleed, I can export PAGES from PUB and there is no problem. (I believe many pdf apps do this imposition. Several people on the Forum have mentioned this and my pdf app does imposition of simple pages fine.) The problem is that I need Bleed Registration and Crop Marks. If I export pages WITH bleed, then the resulting imposition gives me two bleed lines down the middle of the spread. So it's the combination of being able to have some app split a spread into two pages (so that there will then be bleed only on three sides) and then do the imposition to stick two separate pages back into a spread with bleed ONLY round the outside, that I need. One pdf app company told me that they plan this feature in a later version. I have also written to another one. In short, no bleed - no problem. Bleed - big problem. What I am doing for now, a workaround but not the best solution, is that I make my pages bigger, up to where the bleed line was. Then I set bleed to zero. Then I export as pages, no bleed, no crop marks etc. Now my pdf app does the imposition. Then I print and bind it. Now the end sheets, the sheets that stick the text block to the hard cover, are only single sheets and printed on one side. I then put crop marks on the back side of each end sheet. Then I glue these (as is always done) to the front and back of the text block. Now, phew, I can see the crops marks and hence know where to trim the text block. That, I hope, is a partial solution. It won't help me with registration marks but it is a step in the right direction. Were I NOT doing the printing and binding myself, I would not have this problem. Were I not needing bleed etc. I would also be problem free. I'll keep at it but I very much appreciate all the help you have given me. Robin
  12. Hello everyone, I'm still in a state of shock having just found out that Publisher cannot do the imposition needed so that I can print my book in a form suitable for binding. Furthermore, there are no plans to add this feature. If one is having many copies printed by some commercial printer, then all that is needed is to provide the printer with a pdf file and the printer will do the imposition. However, if you are printing it yourself, which is what I am doing, then you have to do the imposition yourself. I am hoping that some members of the forum have done this and can tell me what software they use to do this. There is a free piece of software on the web that can do it but this software cannot handle bleed, which is something I need to use. (I also need crop marks and registration marks.) One thing that crosses my mind is that (SURELY) other DTP apps will do imposition so, are there such DTP apps that can open a Publisher file. If so, I could read the file into that app and print from there. (Then, I suppose, I could continue to use that app for all my other DTP needs. I never thought I would work two years on a book and then find that I could not print it.) Ideas please. Robin
  13. Sorry,

    I should have made that clear. I am printing and binding the book myself. It is a project for my grandchild, who arrived two years ago. Grandchild number 2 arrives late June so I need to do another book! I thought the task (though, of course, I had no idea having never done anything like this before.) would take six months. Hiring artists, taking trips to the Isle of Lewis for research, equipping and entire studio ($1,300 for a monitor alone) and learning how to use all that stuff - and still I can't get it printed out!

    Cheers,

    Robin

    1. Seneca

      Seneca

      Thank you.

      I own Xerox VersaLink C400. It comes with a printer driver that once installed allows you to do a number of imposition tricks. So, it't not necessarily the publishing application that has these options. In fact most don't. I would check your printer driver and see whether you can get what you want. (I'm sure you have already done that).

      Failing that, the cheapest option would then be to buy an imposition software that specialises these sort of things.

      You might want to try this:

      http://www.cheapimpostor.com

      but research first and see what's most appropriate for your job at hand.

  14. Hello, I have a small book ready to print but have not yet managed to find a way to do so. I have many, many problems but the one of greatest significance is to find a way of actually printing the book in the signatures I need for binding. The following is what I have looked at. There must be a solution somewhere (It is called Publisher after all.) but I have not found it. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I require signatures from 1 (rare) to 4 sheets of paper (that is, 4 to 16 pages). However, this requirement is not fixed as, for different books, I will be using paper of differing thicknesses and hence will select different numbers of sheets for the signatures. I have coloured photos that go to the edge of the spread and cover the entire spread, NOT just an entire page. This means that I have to use Bleed and then trim the text block. If I use Booklet as the printing option, it prints the entire file as a single signature (a "booklet" is, essentially, a single signature.) This is no good whatsoever. An average book has between 6 and 10 sheets for each signature. I've never seen a 100 page book bound in a single signature. Since I am using thick paper, my signatures will have about three sheets (on average). If I use Book as the printing option, then it does the page imposition assuming that each signature has a single sheet. This option is equally useless as it would force me into hand sewing every single sheet. As above, I have never seen a book where all the signatures have only a single sheet. Since neither of these options make sense in my situation, I have tried workarounds via the use of pdf files. I purchased a PDF editor (at twice the price of Publisher) just to do the imposition - but that failed too! The reason is subtle ( and very frustrating). IF I export spreads then I can get the bleed done correctly AND get crop marks etc., things that I need for alignment and trimming at the binding stage. BUT, while the PDF software CAN do imposition, it is NOT imposition of spreads that I need. It is imposition of pages AND .... Phew! IF I export, from Publisher, as Pages, THEN it puts bleed round each page. That is, Bleed round FOUR sides of each page (not round each spread)!!! So then, when the imposition is done, there are two strips of bleed down the middle of each spread! Ouch!! This is NOT what is required. If I export as pages WITHOUT bleed, then the imposition in the PDF software does look fine. BUT there is no bleed, crop marks etc. So, although this looks nice on the monitor, it is NOT suitable for printing and binding when I need to trim the text block on the Crop Marks. There are additional, still serious, problems. I use Affinity Photo for photo-editing but, when I put a Photo image into Publisher, the colours change. I have checked and I have the same colour profile in each. I have also checked using Windows Explorer preview window. There is NO difference between the image in Photo and Windows Explorer (preview), but the same image in Publisher is significantly different. When I try my workaround by creating a PDF file, I have not yet found a way to get a PDF that does not change the colours. My monitor is a high-end NEC with its own 14-bit LUT and I re-calibrate it every two weeks. Surely all I need MUST be in Publisher but I have not found it yet. I have searched the tutorials but found no reference. I have been struggling with this for two years (from PagePlus9 days). The imposition algorithm is utterly trivial. I expected to find it under Print but can't see it. Where is it? I will be eternally grateful to anyone who can help me solve this problem. I have spent two years on this project, spent many thousands of dollars all the time assuming that printing a small book would be a feature in any publishing software. I have asked this question before and people have been sympathetic but could offer me no solution. I hope someone out there knows the answer. Splitting my file into several files is not practical as small changes are likely to be made from one printing to the next and these would cascade over all subsequent files. There is also the problem of all the photos covering entire spreads, not just pages. Sincerely, Robin
  15. Hello All, I have a rather unusual request and hope that no one is upset by my posting it on this Forum. I write short stories and get them illustrated via posting commissions. One story I want illustrated is particularly suited to being illustrated in a digital art form but my usual postings have not generated any interest form digital artists. I am wondering if anyone on this Forum is, or knows of, an artist who might be interested in a paid commission to illustrate a short story. If so, I would be happy to hear from them so that we might continue discussions directly, off the Forum. Sincerely, Robin
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