Pierre-Alain Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Hello, apparently, Affinity Photo does not allow to apply a camera profile to a raw picture (e.g.: Nikon D750 flat, or standard, etc.). Therrefore, could we say that while developing the raw file, Affinity keeps by default the camera profile that was selected at the shoot (= impossible to change profile after the shoot)? If it's the case, which profile is applied? Thank you. Quote
DeePressland Posted February 4 Posted February 4 a.i.k. Affinity Photo likely applies a generic profile or a default processing curve to the RAW file upon import. Quote Achieving financial independence is a major goal for many people. The Savings Spot is your one-stop shop for all your saving and budgeting needs. Our top tips on a budget will help you save money and reach your financial goals.
Pierre-Alain Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 Thank you. Yes it seems that no matter what camera profile I use (Flat with sharpness at 0, Flat with sharpness at 9, Standard, Neutral, Vivid), Affinity applies the same profile and once opened, these files all look alike. Unlike Photoshop that respect the camera profile and allows to modifiy it while developping the raw file. Highly annoying... May be Affinity is powerful enough to allow high- and lowlights recuperation. Quote
PROdult Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Adobe doesn’t just ‘respect’ camera profiles - they actively support them by including these profiles (as files) with Adobe products that use CameraRAW. Some of them, I believe, are Adobe’s own approximations, while others are provided directly by the camera manufacturer (such as Fujifilm). Camera profiles are not embedded in the RAW data, and as a small company without a dedicated RAW specialization, Serif hasn’t provided any. In the latest versions of Photoshop, there’s even an AI-assisted model you can choose, which is pretty damn good. Other RAW processing software typically provides only a customized color profile, expecting the user to have their own profiles set up or to work with a generic one - especially in professional studio environments. But in short, this is one of the things you’re paying for with Adobe.I believe Adobe does this specifically to cater to hobbyists, semi-professionals, and professionals alike, providing a quick and accurate starting point for those who wish to use it. Note that I’m specifically talking about color profiles here. When it comes to sharpness and other settings, I’m not actually sure if Adobe tries to replicate them as well. However, you should be aware that only the camera manufacturer knows the exact algorithms and settings behind things like Sharpness 4. The same goes for noise reduction, contrast, and other in-camera processing. If you want a 1:1 match with these in-camera settings, the only guaranteed way is to use the manufacturer’s RAW converter, where the exact same algorithms as in the camera are applied. This isn’t really an issue for professionals or trained individuals - one of the great advantages of RAW is that you can selectively retouch parts of an image. For example, you can apply sharpening only to the areas that need it, which is particularly useful for portraits, or apply aggressive noise reduction to the background while keeping the face untouched and natural. lacerto 1 Quote
Ldina Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I believe @PROdult is correct. To the best of my knowledge, Adobe creates a set of "standard presets" (Camera Standard, Neutral, Vivid, etc) for all, or nearly all, camera models. They are different flavors, or recipes, that are applied during RAW development for different looks (most of which I never liked). I did like the ability to create my own custom camera profiles, which were much more accurate and pleasing than the Adobe standard presets. I believe that LibRAW, which Serif uses as the core for raw development, does not support custom camera profiles, so you get the original RAW data, without any special profiles, saturation or contrast boosts, etc. (using a generic profile that cannot be changed). So, RAW images will initially look somewhat flat, since no auto-enhancements are applied. I also agree that camera manufacturers know all the ins and outs of their own cameras, sensors, algorithms, dynamic range and color best, and will usually provide the most accurate RAW development. I use the Affinity Develop Persona because it is fast, convenient, and allows me to use RAW Layer Linked or Embedded, which keeps file sizes small and allows me to go back and forth as desired. I usually do most of my editing in Photo, so my preference is to bring a conservative, lower contrast image into Photo and work non-destructively. I know that isn't what everyone else does or wants (especially if one is accustomed to doing all their edits in a program like LR). Quote 2024 MacBook Pro M4 Max, 48GB, 1TB SSD, Sequoia OS, Affinity Photo/Designer/Publisher v1 & v2, Adobe CS6 Extended, LightRoom v6, Blender, InkScape, Dell 30" Monitor, Canon PRO-100 Printer, i1 Spectrophotometer, i1Publish, Wacom Intuos 4 PTK-640 graphics tablet
lacerto Posted February 4 Posted February 4 DCP camera profiles, which Adobe RAW automatically reads in a camera profile list, once installed in expected location, used to be provided (I think) for most common camera models along installation of Photoshop and Lightroom, but nowadays need to be acquired or created separately e.g. using e.g. ColorChecker Camera Calibration software (currently 2.2.0 for Windows 2.3.0 for macOS), which is free software (as is dcpTool, an opensource project). By reading in DNG files containing a ColorChecker Passport Photo, it is possible to create general purpose double-illuminant camera profiles, and single lighting condition camera profiles, and also single lighting condition ICC profiles. This allows easy creation of a profile for any camera for RAW (DNG) processing and accurate color production. Camera profiles are also supported at least by DxO PhotoLab, Exposure and CaptureOne. UPDATE: I was wrong, Adobe still provides free DCP camera profiles (the most recent version comes with profiles for 1,306 camera models) with Adobe DNG Converter (available both for Windows and macOS).. Ldina 1 Quote
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