Jared HP Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Hello, When I'm exporting a doc as a pdf I have a rectangle that seems to fill in for some reason, covering my text. Any thoughts? In the actual file the fill is not selected, just the stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 Update: For some reason when I group the text and box and then export it works, but still curious to why it did this in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Hi @Jared HP and welcome to the forums, Can you upload your Affinity file so we can take a quick look... It will be something obvious but we're just guessing without the file... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 Hi @Hangman! Yes, here you go. I also noticed in the exported file there seems to be an outline around the drinks when zoomed out, but zoomed in it disappears. Just want to make sure that won't show when printing, if you could take a look at that too it would be appreciated! drinks menu.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 Sorry to add to the list, but there also seems to be an unwanted outline to all the masked images I have, like what I was saying with the drink pictures. I gave an example below. Would it be better to export as a png? new menu.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Hi @Jared HP, Thanks for the file... It's really hit-and-miss, I generally only see the issue the first time I load the file and the first time I try to export it. If I export it a second time it's fine regardless of the PDF Preset and sometimes it only shows as filled in the export preview window but is fine on the exported PDF... I believe that particular issue may be caused by the Pressure Curve on the Stroke. If you select the bottom left node on the pressure curve and move it up very slightly, it will also move the one on the right-hand side up at the same time... Try that to see if it makes any difference for the first problem and let us know... Which PDF preset are you using? I'll report back on the other issue once I've had a chance to check the new file... drinks menu.mp4 Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 15 minutes ago, Jared HP said: Sorry to add to the list, but there also seems to be an unwanted outline to all the masked images I have, like what I was saying with the drink pictures. I gave an example below. Would it be better to export as a png? Sorry to be a Pain but could you either embedd all the images and re-upload the file or use the Save as Package option in the File menu to Save the file, that will create a .afpackage file along with a folder full of images. If you zip the folder of images along with the .afpackage file then upload the zip I can take a closer look... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 4 minutes ago, Hangman said: Hi @Jared HP, Thanks for the file... It's really hit-and-miss, I generally only see the issue the first time I load the file and the first time I try to export it. If I export it a second time it's fine regardless of the PDF Preset and sometimes it only shows as filled in the export preview window but is fine on the exported PDF... I believe that particular issue may be caused by the Pressure Curve on the Stroke. If you select the bottom left node on the pressure curve and move it up very slightly, it will also move the one on the right-hand side up at the same time... Try that to see if it makes any difference for the first problem and let us know... Which PDF preset are you using? I'll report back on the other issue once I've had a chance to check the new file... drinks menu.mp4 3.12 MB · 0 downloads Interesting, maybe it worked the second time just because I exported it again and not because I grouped the items together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, Hangman said: Sorry to be a Pain but could you either embedd all the images and re-upload the file or use the Save as Package option in the File menu to Save the file, that will create a .afpackage file along with a folder full of images. If you zip the folder of images along with the .afpackage file then upload the zip I can take a closer look... Not a pain at all! I tried exporting and choosing 'Rasterize everything,' and the weird outlines seemed to disappear. I'll try exporting the whole document again with that option, but if you still want the file let me know! This might have solved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 58 minutes ago, Jared HP said: Interesting, maybe it worked the second time just because I exported it again and not because I grouped the items together That appears to be the case though I think tweaking the pressure curve may achieve the same thing though I've not tested that extensively... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 57 minutes ago, Jared HP said: Not a pain at all! I tried exporting and choosing 'Rasterize everything,' and the weird outlines seemed to disappear. I'll try exporting the whole document again with that option, but if you still want the file let me know! This might have solved it. That will rasterise your text as well... I assume you were seeing the unwanted outline to all the masked images when you had it set to Rasterise Unsupported Properties, is that right? If you're still having issues then yes it woudl be helpful to have the images but if you're happy with the exported file you have now then there's no need to worry... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, Hangman said: That will rasterise your text as well... I assume you were seeing the unwanted outline to all the masked images when you had it set to Rasterise Unsupported Properties, is that right? If you're still having issues then yes it woudl be helpful to have the images but if you're happy with the exported file you have now then there's no need to worry... That is correct. I tried different options and I see that's a problem now, text appears a bit fuzzy no matter what I do, but the images are fine. I tried to do the package like you said, it's 1.77 GB, and it says the max total size is 1.62, so heres a Drive link if that works. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UlM2fox1H0EiQVTKe9a0y2DKIkquw1_-/view?usp=sharing I also tried rasterizing the images individually and exporting, but then the drop shadows I have aren't in the exported version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Hi @Jared HP, Many thanks for the files... There are a couple of issues that you will likely want to address... (click images to view a larger version)... On 8/15/2024 at 5:03 PM, Jared HP said: Sorry to add to the list, but there also seems to be an unwanted outline to all the masked images I have, like what I was saying with the drink pictures. I gave an example below. Would it be better to export as a png? The masking issue is caused by the image being inside a group... this is a known bug logged under AF-3762 and is caused when exporting a grouped layer that includes an FX to PDF with Allow Advanced Features enabled... Moving the layer outside the group with Allow Advanced features enabled exports the FX correctly... The Image on Page 11 Moved Outside the Group Renders the Outer Shadow FX Correctly You will probably want to rasterise all images that use an FX because where the FX encoaches on the text, the text under the FX is rasterised, e.g., FX Applied to an Image Layer Where the FX Overlaps a Text Layer - Before Being Rasterised FX Applied to an Image Layer Where the FX Overlaps a Text Layer - After Being Rasterised I would make a duplicate copy of your Publisher file and associated images then select every instance of an Image or Group where you have an FX applied, right-click the Layer or Group and select Rasterise... You will be asked if you want to preserve the FX layer, you can leave this ticked... Rasterizing the Layers and Groups will then maintain vector text where the FX overlaps it... Note: You can select multiple Layers together and Rasterise these all in one go... I've not been through your file with a fine toothcomb but there are a couple of things that stand out The Shadows in the top half of Page 7 appear abrupt in the PDF export, I think this is a direct result of the grouping which differs from the images on the bottom half of the page which all appear in a single group rather than in individual rows like the images in the top half of the page but again this can be remedied by rasterising the FX which you will want to do anyway to prevent parts of the text from being rasterised... Shadows in the Top Half of Page 7 Before Rasterisation Shadows in the Top Half of Page 7 After Rasterisation General Issues The Negroni image on Page 2 is a little tight to the crop and could be cropped when trimmed... The Price for the Seaweed Salad on Page 5 which is pinned for some reason is floating out of the filled rounded rectangle... The Scallop Dragon Photo on Page 8 is misaligned in its frame... The exported PDF will need a thorough check to ensure any issues are resolved before it goes to print but hopefully, the above helps... If you have any other questions please just ask... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 @Hangman That's amazing, thank you for going through in such depth! I didn't even realize those other few issues were there. For some reason the first time the shadows werent preserved when I rasterized and exported the first time, but they're good now! I'll try this out for the full document and let you know. I don't know if this is just me being picky, but I'm finding the images are still slightly less quality after exporting. The image on the left is rasterized and open in the program, and the right is exported right after that. To me the left looks brighter and crisper, any thoughts on that? Here are my export settings as well: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 47 minutes ago, Jared HP said: @Hangman That's amazing, thank you for going through in such depth! I didn't even realize those other few issues were there. For some reason the first time the shadows werent preserved when I rasterized and exported the first time, but they're good now! I'll try this out for the full document and let you know. I don't know if this is just me being picky, but I'm finding the images are still slightly less quality after exporting. The image on the left is rasterized and open in the program, and the right is exported right after that. To me the left looks brighter and crisper, any thoughts on that? Here are my export settings as well: Nevermind, the left image was before rasterizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 4 hours ago, Jared HP said: Nevermind, the left image was before rasterizing. To be honest the rasterised image in the PDF does look a little soft... I did a quick and dirty test applying an unsharp mask to the rasterised image before exporting to PDF, so: The image on the left is the original image rasterised (nothing else)... The image on the right is a straight export in the first image and has an unsharp mask applied in the second image, though possibly a little too much sharpening... Note 1: I would strongly suggest working on a copy of your Publisher file and a copy of your image files so you keep the original intact... Note 2: Something else I discovered which I believe is a known bug is that unchecking Allow JPEG Compression in the PDF export settings appears to corrupt the image files in the exported PDF... Original Publisher Image Left | PDF Right (The image on the right looks soft) Original Publisher Image Left | PDF Exported with Sharpening Applied to the Rasterised Image Right (Probably too much sharpening) Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 2 hours ago, Hangman said: To be honest the rasterised image in the PDF does look a little soft... I did a quick and dirty test applying an unsharp mask to the rasterised image before exporting to PDF, so: The image on the left is the original image rasterised (nothing else)... The image on the right is a straight export in the first image and has an unsharp mask applied in the second image, though possibly a little too much sharpening... Note 1: I would strongly suggest working on a copy of your Publisher file and a copy of your image files so you keep the original intact... Note 2: Something else I discovered which I believe is a known bug is that unchecking Allow JPEG Compression in the PDF export settings appears to corrupt the image files exported PDF... Original Publisher Image Left | PDF Right (The image on the right looks soft) Original Publisher Left | PDF Exported with Sharpening Applied to the Rasterised Image Right (Probably too much sharpening) Ooh, I like the look of the unsharp mask. And I will keep those notes in mind thank you. I also did a bootleg fix. I duplicated the image layer: the one above has the drop shadow removed, the one under is rasterized with a drop shadow and I think the quality is pretty close. I think with that and your suggestions I will be good to go! Appreciate the help with everything, I've definitely learned a lot! Original publisher left | exported right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Hi @Jared HP, Perfect, that is looking pretty comparable... I'm glad you have a result that you're happy with and I hope everything looks great once the menu is printed... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 Hi @Hangman its me again. Any idea why text might be exporting thicker on pages 8-10? Left - original publisher file | right - exported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Hi @Jared HP, I think it depends on how you're viewing the pdf... If you open the exported PDF in Publisher and make a like-for-like comparison, the (non-rasterised) text looks identical... Original Publisher File Left | Exported PDF Reopened in Publisher Right Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 On 8/17/2024 at 6:24 AM, Hangman said: Hi @Jared HP, I think it depends on how you're viewing the pdf... If you open the exported PDF in Publisher and make a like-for-like comparison, the (non-rasterised) text looks identical... Original Publisher File Left | Exported PDF Reopened in Publisher Right Even having done that it still seems to be showing slightly bolded for me Exported PDF Reopened in Publisher Left |Original Publisher File Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 7 minutes ago, Jared HP said: Even having done that it still seems to be showing slightly bolded for me Hi @Jared HP, Just to clarify... Are you Opening or Placing the exported PDF for comparison, the latter will show a Passthrough view which will look heavier in weight because it appears rasterised, the former should look identical... Original Publisher Text Left | Exported PDF Placed Text Right Exported PDF Opened Left | PDF Original Publisher Text right Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 4 minutes ago, Hangman said: Hi @Jared HP, Just to clarify... Are you Opening or Placing the exported PDF for comparison, the latter will show a Passthrough view which will look heavier in weight because it appears rasterised, the former should look identical... Original Publisher Text Left | Exported PDF Placed Text Right Exported PDF Opened Left | PDF Original Publisher Text right I open the file in Publisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Jared HP said: I open the file in Publisher The second (lower) image in the previous post uses that comparison and (for me) the text looks identical in weight... Could you upload the PDF you exported for Page 8 so I can take a look at your PDF file... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared HP Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Hangman said: The second (lower) image in the previous post uses that comparison and (for me) the text looks identical in weight... Could you upload the PDF you exported for Page 8 so I can take a look at your PDF file... For sure, here you go! And again, it only seems to be these three pages, text everywhere else is fine 8-10.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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