Welsbach Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I don’t know the english word for Kolumnentitel, but I think it is clear what I mean. In would like to habe the chapter headings in a text appearing in the head line of the page. The chapter tittles have to lines with two different styles. The first one shall appears on the left page, the second one on the right side. This doesn’t work. The first try showed me from the 3rd chapter only the word »Kolumnentitel« on both sides. After this I created a new file, with two master pages for left an right and so on. This worked fine.... for 3 chapters. When I imported the 4th chapter (plain text) and applied the styles to both parts of the chapter title, only one of them (on the left side) appeared. On the other side just »Kolumnentitel«. Is there anything I can do? (Sure: I can use InDesign, but is it possible with the Publisher too?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Are you wanting something like this? Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 Exactly. And it works three time or so and then not. Or (in another file) just once (for one chapter) and no more. I can reproduce this without probloems. It’s just that I don’t know how long it takes until the problem appears. But it appears, that’s sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 I attach 2 screen shots which show the problem. The settings are absolutely identical. It’s the sam file, the same master page, the same paragraph styles. And the feature works for 3 chapters. But not for the 4th one and the not for the following chapters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Now I need to know what the various bits of text in the headers are. Is "Dritter Gesang" and "Hebe" in a text file that is placed into the document? Or are those Section names? Where you have "Vierter Gesang" is there any indication of the text frame having overflowing Text? A simple Publisher file would go a long way to helping us help you. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 This are chapter names. In the text file two lines. One says the number, the other one the title of the chapter. They have different styles, one is assigned to the left column, the other one to the right one. Once more: This works well for 3 chapters, but not for the 4th. There is no overflowing text in the text frame, there is a lot of empty space. The same as in the chapters before, where it works well. Do ypu wamt me to attach the file? I can do this, but it is quite large and not ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 40 minutes ago, Welsbach said: Do ypu wamt me to attach the file? I can do this, but it is quite large and not ready. If you could isolate the problem part in a new, smaller file that would be good. Say the second chapter and the start of the third chapter. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 I send the first three chapters and deleted the rest which anyway was not ready. Olympischer Frühling.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 I thought it may be a problem with my computer and opened the file on my iPad. Well... It’s exactly the same problem. No chance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I am thinking it is how you have the Running Headers (perhaps this is the "Kolumnentitel"?) on Master Pages. I would make a Master Page for the bulk of the text and one for the start of a chapter. I would have the all the text frames named with descriptive names, left Text, Right page number etc. Have the same names for the same things on the two Master Pages. The Naming will help with applying the Master pages and keeping the text flowing properly. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I have cleared and reapplied the master pages for the final four pages in your document. Seems to work. Olympischer bruce.afpub Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 What is the difference? I see that it now works for the 4th chapter (which doesn't mesan that it’ll work for the 5th too, but I don’t see why. It’s ther same as before when I did’t know why i didn’t work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 I was sure... Olympischer bruce (1).afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Try this one. I cleared out the masters and now there are just two. In my opinion naming everything (using consistent names) on Master Pages is a very necessary thing. Olympischer bruce 02.afpub Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 I added a new chapter. Not more. I just took your cleaned file. You see: The difference is that now the problem is on the left page. Thank you for trying to help me, but I don’t want to waste you time any longer. It’s evident that it can’t have any result. And I can not now and in the future ask you with every chapter to make I don’t know what to fix the problem. This is a very simple book project. With InDesign I finish it in 2 hours and can give it to proof reading. With Publisher I wastes 2 days and it is not ready. So the lost son returns remorseful to InDesign. Once more: Thank you very much for trying to help. I’m sure you couldn’t do more. But it is not enough. (May be I'll try Publisher again when it is ready for use.) Olympischer bruce 02-new.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Welsbach said: I thought it may be a problem with my computer and opened the file on my iPad. Well... It’s exactly the same problem. No chance... It is strange, because when i open your file and file of Bruce, it works on Windows. Maybe problem is with MacOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 May be there are problems with MacOS. (The app is also quite slow.) And with iPad OS too. But I can’t switch to Windows for this reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 It seems that problem was fixed in beta 2.2 on Windows, maybe on MacOS, too. When i open your file in 2.1.1 i have problem, too. Have you tried to open your file in latest beta on MacOS? Be careful, because you won't be able to open it in version 2.1.1 afterwards. Make a copy of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 I installed the beta. On MacOS it seems to work now. Thank you. At least I know it’s not my fault. Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 Well... I must say... It is the same problem with the beta too. It seems the problem occurs when the file contains over 50 pages. I return to InDesign, I want to work on my files, not on the tool which I bought for working on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Welsbach said: Well... I must say... It is the same problem with the beta too. It seems the problem occurs when the file contains over 50 pages. I think the problem is caused by applying Two Master Pages instead of One. Problem with two Master Pages applied. No problem with One Master Page applied. While my version of the beta (2.2.0.1903) doesn't show the problem the retail release (2.1.1) does show the problem so there is some weird bug happening that the beta has (potentially) fixed. For the record this is on Mac OS 11.7.9 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsbach Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 No. The problem appears with a new file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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