orangefizz Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) ***SOLVED: the image was zoomed out, so the application of noise in the actual image looked different from the preview which shows the noise at 1:1 scale. Evidently the noise preview pane should show the noise as it would appear at whatever scale is selected in the filter. Filters > Noise > Add Noise... On an imported image which was rasterized, the settings in the Add Noise filter are correctly previewed but aren't actually applied to the image on clicking "Apply". Even at 100% noise in the preview it looks like it's only adding about 50%. On darker images this discrepancy is even more noticeable. Edited April 13, 2023 by orangefizz Filter pane shows noise at different scale Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
orangefizz Posted April 13, 2023 Author Posted April 13, 2023 Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
walt.farrell Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, orangefizz said: Are both of those at 100% Zoom? (Ctrl/Cmd + 1) Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
orangefizz Posted April 13, 2023 Author Posted April 13, 2023 One is what the preview pane displays, the other is the image at the same zoom level. And that's exactly my point here: the filter *IS* applying 100% noise, but in the preview pane it shows the noise "grains" much much larger than they will actually appear once applied. Seems there should be a scaling function in the preview pane to account for this scaling issue otherwise it's rather misleading. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
walt.farrell Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, orangefizz said: One is what the preview pane displays, the other is the image at the same zoom level. And that's exactly my point here: the filter *IS* applying 100% noise, but in the preview pane it shows the noise "grains" much much larger than they will actually appear once applied. Seems there should be a scaling function in the preview pane to account for this scaling issue otherwise it's rather misleading. I'm not sure what you mean by "the Preview Pane". The effect of the filter is shown directly on the image. You must be at 100% Zoom when adjusting the filter to see it accurately. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
orangefizz Posted April 13, 2023 Author Posted April 13, 2023 Shouldn't the previewed effect be scaled at whatever zoom level I'm at? Why show the user "80% noise" at 50% zoom if the *actual* applied noise looks nothing like that at 50%. Only once the filter is applied does the "true" amount of noise—at the current zoom state—get rendered correctly. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
walt.farrell Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 Others have suggested this could be improved, and there are probably Feature Requests asking for that, but for now Serif have said that it is working as it was designed to work. You need to be at a 100% Zoom to judge the effects of the filter. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
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