walt.farrell Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 Perhaps too succinctly. Please provide a screenshot. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
walt.farrell Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 Thanks. Note that it is not "to the right of a group of curve layer" but "to the right of a Layer" (with a capital L). A Layer has a "highlight" property which defaults to that shade of Blue. It can be set on the desktop versions of the Affinity applications, but I do not see a way to set it on the iPad versions. So, for example, I could make a Layer with a pink highlight on the desktop apps. Such as the one attached below. The highlight color can be used to distinguish various Layers in the Layers panel/studio. But it also will affect the color of bounding boxes for objects in the document, too. So, a Rectangle on a Layer with the default highlight property is blue, but a Rectangle on a Layer with a pink highlight will show as Pink when selected. (You can add objects to the document below to see this; I didn't bother adding any.) layer-properties-pink.afdesign Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Affinity Rat Posted March 28, 2023 Author Posted March 28, 2023 Ok, thanks for that, the significance of the colour is merely a flag to differentiate user determined groups of some import. Quote
Affinity Rat Posted March 28, 2023 Author Posted March 28, 2023 I imported a file from the internet that used these flags or markers, and couldnt figure out how they got there or what they meant. 🙂 Quote
Affinity Rat Posted March 28, 2023 Author Posted March 28, 2023 Hmmmm layer with capital L vs layer? The fact that the what I called a “group” has a little drop-down triangle next to it, I thot that meant a nested layers or group of sub-objects. Not correct, could you please elaborate on my incorrect terminology. 😀 I didnt name these layers this was an imported file. Quote
walt.farrell Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 Every object in Affinity is a layer (small l). You can group layers into Groups. A Group is also a layer (small l). Groups can contain other objects. A Layer (capital L) is a different kind of object that can hold other objects. It is also a layer (small l). As we're talking about Designer, an Artboard is another kind of layer that can hold other objects. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Affinity Rat Posted March 28, 2023 Author Posted March 28, 2023 A bit confusing a “Capital L” Layer is a container, that is also a small “l” layer. Since all objects are “layers” a Capital L Layer is a shell layer may contain many sub-layers. Is there a list of layers? adjustments filters masks channels / selections Vectors or curves images pixels layer Symbols fills Text Group brushes artboard What is an example of a big L Layer? Is a group merely an empty shell layer until something put into it? I guess what I am asking can a group have properties itself that affect the appearance of contained objects, thinking about it of course, yes it has transparency, gamma etc are group properties. Quote
walt.farrell Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said: What is an example of a big L Layer? You have one in your document. 4 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said: Is a group merely an empty shell layer until something put into it? No. Groups have some similar characteristics and capabilities to Layers but are different than Layers. Groups also have some characteristics/capabilities that Layers don't have. And Layers have some that Groups don't have. 8 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said: Is there a list of layers? There's a discussion that mentions a bunch of them: There's also a list in the Help, but it's a bit incomplete (or unclear), as it doesn't clearly distinguish some of the layer types that use the same icon.https://affinity.help/publisher2/en-US.lproj/index.html?page=pages/Layers/aboutLayers.html?title=About layers Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Affinity Rat Posted March 28, 2023 Author Posted March 28, 2023 Quote You have one in your document. Yes I saw this, but this file was from an internet svg file, I didnt appreciate how it was created or the app that created it just used the name Layer as a default name for a layer. ie I didnt know if there was any significance attached to name. How do you create a “Layer” in A Dez? Just read the thread the Mystery of Layers, interesting, I suspect that many of these layers are built on layers of specific instances of metadata, that builds variant layers from common sub-levels. Quote
walt.farrell Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 51 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said: How do you create a “Layer” in A Dez? There's an icon at the bottom of the Layers panel, or in the Menu, Layer > New Layer. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Affinity Rat Posted March 30, 2023 Author Posted March 30, 2023 I think the confusion here is the result of sloppy non-technical terminology. So a capital L Layer is referring to a pixel layer I am still curious about what is a pixel layer, that has expandable sub levels below it. Are these levels child layers? Once a pixel layer has sublayers, the parent pixel layer (as I call it) (by default looses its independence as a editable layer and now seems to behave like a mask. Attempting to use blue brush on top pixel layer results not in blue brush stroke but rather red from underlying layer. Below, the original pixel layer was an unbroken rectangle with cross in the middle in light blue. New pixel layer added consisting of only a “red window” see icon on layers palette. Now back to original pixel layer, a darker blue diamond drawn on overlays everything. All blend modes set to normal. What is going on here? Note that this is A Pho not ADez Quote
walt.farrell Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Affinity Rat said: So a capital L Layer is referring to a pixel layer No,. It is a vector layer. This is a feature of Designer or Publisher, not of Photo. 6 hours ago, Affinity Rat said: I am still curious about what is a pixel layer, that has expandable sub levels below it. Are these levels child layers? They may be Mask layers, or clipped layers. In your screenshot, they are clipped. https://affinity.help/designer2ipad/en-US.lproj/pages/ObjectControl/layerClip.html Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Affinity Rat Posted March 30, 2023 Author Posted March 30, 2023 Thanks Walt, no both of these layers were created by adding a pixel layer then dragging and dropping the 2nd pixel layer on top of the original layer. Does that create a clipped or mask layer of the original “parent” layer? Certainly seems that way. Quote
walt.farrell Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said: Does that create a clipped or mask layer of the original “parent” layer? Yes, but which is created will depend on where you drop it. There are tutorials for clipping vs masking that will explain it. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
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