eworkflow Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I find Footnote Custom Positioning somewhat inadequate. For example, the Chicago Manual of Style leaves to the writer to accurately control where a long footnote overflows to the next page. The idea is to never split a footnote at the end of a sentence, so readers get a clear indication a footnote continues on the next page. APub2's "Allow split notes" seems to be less rigorous. Why not use a more intuitive UI, such as maybe "Force split note", allowing the user to simply use a new paragraph character within the footnote text to force the exact position where the footnote text continue on the next page? Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Hi. I agree that there is room for improvement but footnote formatting is complicated for any app. Publisher's split footnotes feature works very well but it won't do what you want. I believe you're asking for an option to "Don't split notes at start of sentence". That would be a cool feature and it isn't one that InDesign or Quark offer either. But there is a workaround, albeit a bit kludgey and manual. If Publisher does split a footnote at the end of a sentence you could fix it by replacing the space after the period with a non-breaking space. Of course if you edit your body or footnote copy later the footnote split may occur elsewhere and now you have a non-breaking space where you don't want one. Good luck! Quote Download a free manual for Publisher 2.4 from this forum - expanded 300-page PDF My system: Affinity 2.4.2 for macOS Sonoma 14.4.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 5 hours ago, eworkflow said: The idea is to never split a footnote at the end of a sentence, so readers get a clear indication a footnote continues on the next page. APub2's "Allow split notes" seems to be less rigorous. Why not use a more intuitive UI, such as maybe "Force split note", allowing the user to simply use a new paragraph character within the footnote text to force the exact position where the footnote text continue on the next page? Please advise. What happens if you insert a new line character before the end of the sentence? Like I just did with the question above. It should read as: What happens if you insert a new line character before the end of the sentence? I would think that the auto function would then break the footnote at the line break. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eworkflow Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 I dug deeper and I think I found a good solution for my problem. My problem (purposefully detailed): split a 9-line Bottom of Frame footnote at the end of the 5th line. My solution: 1) Position cursor at the end of the 5th line; 2) Use top menu Text / Insert / Breaks / Frame Break. sfriedberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfriedberg Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 That ... makes sense, as footnotes are placed in frames. I am both surprised and pleased that AffPub will auto-create another footnote frame in these case. eworkflow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eworkflow Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 ...a follow-up note: the "Allow split note" must be also on for my solution to work correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 12 hours ago, eworkflow said: accurately control where a long footnote overflows to the next page. The idea is to never split a footnote at the end of a sentence, so readers get a clear indication a footnote continues on the next page. If all you want is to be in compliance with the Chicago Style then I don't see why you can't just insert a line break in the line that has a period/full stop at the bottom of the note's split frame. Just place your text cursor there and hit Shift + Return. The last word (with its Chicago offensive period) of that line will shift over to the next Footnote frame on the next page. I include some nonsense with footnotes illustrating this. It is in set in Arial so all should be fine. notes test.afpub Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eworkflow Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Thank you, Old Bruce, for your kind help. Please note that "my solution" (see above, using Frame Break insert while "Allow split notes" in on) works somewhat "cleaner" for me, although it requires a little manual cleanup of the overflow footnote's first line created that way. It's necessary to mention that using Frame Break insert without first "Allow split notes" on, hangs my AffPub2 on Win11. Thanks again. firstdefence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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