v_kyr Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 AppStore MAS Installment: the MAS update under El Capitan here indicates for v.1.9.2 a 379 MB download. It starts the download of 379 MB and after that when it reaches the state to install, during installation, shortly before finishing installing it says "wait" and then reinitiates a new download of 729 MB. - So one always downloads 379 MB and then continously another additionally 729 MB here (aka 379 + 729 MB all in all)! - The same happens for the Designer installment. - BTW, I've seen this same behavior also previously for the v1.9.1 Mac AppStore updates! So the overall behavior here is always, MAS starts the update by downloading first a lower overall file size of 379MB and installs it. But shortly before finishing the 379 MB installment, it autoresets and reinitiates a new huger 729 MB download which it then installs! Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 ◆ OSX El Capitan☛ Affinity V2 apps still not installed and thus momentary not in use under MacOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted March 31, 2021 Staff Share Posted March 31, 2021 Hi @v_kyr, I suggest you have a chat with Apple Support. It's all done through the Mac App Store, and the process is not in our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Gabe said: I suggest you have a chat with Apple Support. It's all done through the Mac App Store, and the process is not in our hands. So they don't tell you how your software is handled at all there when you provide that and further updates to MAS. No collaboration and feedback about the overall processing there at all, strange! Even the MAS update procedure overall works, I always wonder why it needs two download runs & processing in order to perform the updating here. - I will analyze that further, also check Apple support and if I find out the reason I will report it here. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 ◆ OSX El Capitan☛ Affinity V2 apps still not installed and thus momentary not in use under MacOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just curious, but after your updates to 1.9.2 complete, what are the sizes of the apps as reported by Finder? For me running Catalina, AD 1.9.2 is 2.45GB & AP is 2.5GB. Both came from the MAS. I got APub from the Affinity Store & it is 2.46GB. FWIW, these are the same file sizes as the last 1.9.2 betas, respectively. I assume the large file sizes are because these are now 'fat' binaries with both Intel & Apple CPU versions. 7 hours ago, Gabe said: I suggest you have a chat with Apple Support. Probably only marginally relevant but for me the two 1.9.1 MAS updates never showed up in the Available Updates section of the MAS app. Logging out & back into my account & refreshing the list via CMD-R did not help. I had to update them by going to the MAS product page, which was the only place the "Update" button would appear. Plus, even after successfully updating them this way, neither one showed up in the "Recent Updates" section of the store app. After the same thing happened with the latest Apple Pages, Numbers, & Keynote apps (so I was sure it was not just an Affinity issue), I called Apple Support about this. Their only not too helpful suggestion was to reinstall the OS & wait to see if the next batch of updates appeared in the Available Updates section of the app. I did reinstall Catalina but when the Affinity 1.9.2 updates were released, I still did not see them in the Available Updates section. However, this time when I used CMD-R they appeared immediately & the updates completed quickly in one pass each. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 30 minutes ago, R C-R said: Just curious, but after your updates to 1.9.2 complete, what are the sizes of the apps as reported by Finder? For me running Catalina, AD 1.9.2 is 2.45GB & AP is 2.5GB. Both came from the MAS. I got APub from the Affinity Store & it is 2.46GB. FWIW, these are the same file sizes as the last 1.9.2 betas, respectively. 30 minutes ago, R C-R said: I assume the large file sizes are because these are now 'fat' binaries with both Intel & Apple CPU versions. Of course they are, otherwise they won't be that huge. Further you can always check/test with lipo, aka (> lipo "Affinity Designer.app/Contents/MacOS/Affinity Designer" -info) ... etc.! But that's not the point here, the point is as said initially, that for example for Designer, one then always downloads & installs two times in one process, first a 355 MB patch and then continously another additionally 708 MB full here (aka 355 + 708 MB all in all). See as an MAS update installment example ... screencast_install.mp4 31 minutes ago, R C-R said: Probably only marginally relevant but for me the two 1.9.1 MAS updates never showed up in the Available Updates section of the MAS app. Don't have such MAS update showup problems under El Capitan, the updates do always show up and are indicated immediately on the system via the AppStore app. So I can't reproduce that. But I saw now two times, for all the v1.9.1 and v.1.9.2 release updates that always a double downloading MAS behavior occurs when updating, which is unnecessary time/space consuming since the first process download and installment run is always reseted during it's installment and then immediately a second download/installment is initiated on the fly! Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 ◆ OSX El Capitan☛ Affinity V2 apps still not installed and thus momentary not in use under MacOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, v_kyr said: But I saw now two times, for all the v1.9.1 and v.1.9.2 release updates that always a double downloading MAS behavior occurs when updating, which is unnecessary time/space consuming since the first process download and installment run is always reseted during it's installment and then immediately a second download/installment is initiated on the fly! Are you sure anything actually is being reset or could it simply be that the first much smaller download is a 'delta' updater that only installs part of what is required for the full update? IOW, maybe the MAS app version for older OS versions like you are running no longer checks if the smaller DL includes everything needed until after it is downloaded. Or, maybe sort of like for me, reinstalling your macOS version will fix something that has become damaged that causes the double downloads? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, R C-R said: Are you sure anything actually is being reset or could it simply be that the first much smaller download is a 'delta' updater that only installs part of what is required for the full update? IOW, maybe the MAS app version for older OS versions like you are running no longer checks if the smaller DL includes everything needed until after it is downloaded. The download resets/reinitiates, it did already the same before for the version v1.9.1 release update last time (same installation behaviour), so thus or why should it do the same for some fixes now again. Meaning a smaller download with just reworked/fixed parts and thus a diff/patch version would be usually enough here. - In the past, before v1.9.x the MAS updates just performed the needed updates and not two consecutive download & installs. 1 hour ago, R C-R said: Or, maybe sort of like for me, reinstalling your macOS version will fix something that has become damaged that causes the double downloads? I doubt that, the previous Affinity version was running good and Ok beside some of the common known general bugs/glitches. Further the previous version did the same during MAS installment (I've reported this last time too for the updates). - The OS itself runs fine without problems and other apps update fine too via MAS. IMO the whole is more overall Affinity MAS installer related/specific! Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 ◆ OSX El Capitan☛ Affinity V2 apps still not installed and thus momentary not in use under MacOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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